Ive read the NICE guidelines but I'm getting myself confused .. can anyone dumb it down for me please?
If initial diet / exercise control has failed, start off with metformin (biguanide). Monitor HbA1c. If HbA1c > 6.5%, add in a low-cost sulfonylurea, e.g. gliclazide (use a DPP-4 inhibitor e.g. sitagliptin instead if high risk of hypoglycaemia or if sulfonylureas are contraindicated). Monitor HbA1c. If HbA1c > 7.5%, consider adding in either a DPP-4 inhibitor (if not already on it) or a thiazolidinedione, e.g. pioglitazone. If HbA1c > 7.5%, add in insulin. If HbA1c > 7.5%, consider intensifying insulin treatment, e.g. using twice-daily biphasic human insulin, especially if HbA1c > 9.0%.
If initial diet / exercise control has failed, start off with metformin (biguanide). Monitor HbA1c. If HbA1c > 6.5%, add in a low-cost sulfonylurea, e.g. gliclazide (use a DPP-4 inhibitor e.g. sitagliptin instead if high risk of hypoglycaemia or if sulfonylureas are contraindicated). Monitor HbA1c. If HbA1c > 7.5%, consider adding in either a DPP-4 inhibitor (if not already on it) or a thiazolidinedione, e.g. pioglitazone. If HbA1c > 7.5%, add in insulin. If HbA1c > 7.5%, consider intensifying insulin treatment, e.g. using twice-daily biphasic human insulin, especially if HbA1c > 9.0%.
The detail you actually need to know is going to depend on which course, what stage you're at and which university. They don't all teach the same thing.
The detail you actually need to know is going to depend on which course, what stage you're at and which university. They don't all teach the same thing.
Probably will be on the final exam this year - it was in lectures in our Type 2 DM case this year and all the lecturers seem to love including NICE guidelines in their lectures and exam questions, especially for the hypertension case we had in January.
Probably will be on the final exam this year - it was in lectures in our Type 2 DM case this year and all the lecturers seem to love including NICE guidelines in their lectures and exam questions, especially for the hypertension case we had in January.
**** we just started hypertension **** its tough
currently doing OSCE's flip theyre hard...how you finding second year yourself?
currently doing OSCE's flip theyre hard...how you finding second year yourself?
Yeah, it's going well. Just found out when I've got my OSCE this year - late May.
Hypertension is fairly straight forward initially: if the pt is under 55 or of non-Afro-Caribbean descent, start off with an ACE inhibitor, e.g. ramipril. If not tolerated, switch to an ARB, e.g. losartan. If the pt is over 55 or of Afro-Caribbean descent, start off with a dihydropyridine CCB, e.g. amlodipine. If the pt is still hypertensive, combine the two drugs. If the pt is still hypertensive, add in a thiazide-like diuretic, chlortalidone is the one recommended by NICE. If the pt has other co-morbidities, e.g. Type 2 DM, use an ACE inhibitor regardless of age. If the pt has had a previous MI or suffers from AF, consider using a rate-limiting CCB instead of a dihydropyridine one, e,g, diltiazem or verapamil, or a cardioselective beta-blocker, e.g. atenolol or metoprolol. If the pt is male and has benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), use an alpha-blocker, e.g. tamsulosin.
Essentially, the aim is to have the pt on as few drugs as possible, so you try to use drugs that have multiple indications / effects.
Yeah, it's going well. Just found out when I've got my OSCE this year - late May.
Hypertension is fairly straight forward initially: if the pt is under 55 or of non-Afro-Caribbean descent, start off with an ACE inhibitor, e.g. ramipril. If not tolerated, switch to an ARB, e.g. losartan. If the pt is over 55 or of Afro-Caribbean descent, start off with a dihydropyridine CCB, e.g. amlodipine. If the pt is still hypertensive, combine the two drugs. If the pt is still hypertensive, add in a thiazide-like diuretic, chlortalidone is the one recommended by NICE. If the pt has other co-morbidities, e.g. Type 2 DM, use an ACE inhibitor regardless of age. If the pt has had a previous MI or suffers from AF, consider using a rate-limiting CCB instead of a dihydropyridine one, e,g, diltiazem or verapamil, or a cardioselective beta-blocker, e.g. atenolol or metoprolol. If the pt is male and has benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), use an alpha-blocker, e.g. tamsulosin.
Essentially, the aim is to have the pt on as few drugs as possible, so you try to use drugs that have multiple indications / effects.
ah a while yet!
is there a flow diagram you learned that from too? were never given notes like that :I
then again you probably look up all these things anyways haha
If initial diet / exercise control has failed, start off with metformin (biguanide). Monitor HbA1c. If HbA1c > 6.5%, add in a low-cost sulfonylurea, e.g. gliclazide (use a DPP-4 inhibitor e.g. sitagliptin instead if high risk of hypoglycaemia or if sulfonylureas are contraindicated). Monitor HbA1c. If HbA1c > 7.5%, consider adding in either a DPP-4 inhibitor (if not already on it) or a thiazolidinedione, e.g. pioglitazone. If HbA1c > 7.5%, add in insulin. If HbA1c > 7.5%, consider intensifying insulin treatment, e.g. using twice-daily biphasic human insulin, especially if HbA1c > 9.0%.
Hope this helps!
thank you ! The part i don't get and confuses me is the part about adding basal insulin (for dual therapy). When does that get added and what is it given in combination with? Im a bit confused how basal insulin differs from normal insulin used in triple therapy.
thank you ! The part i don't get and confuses me is the part about adding basal insulin (for dual therapy). When does that get added and what is it given in combination with? Im a bit confused how basal insulin differs from normal insulin used in triple therapy.
Thanks for your help
I think basal insulins are products like insulin glargine, which provide a constant supply of insulin throughout the day, mimicking physiological insulin secretion. Other insulins, such as insulin lispro (lysine and proline residues of insulin are switched), act much more rapidly and for a shorter time - it allows patients to inject these short-acting insulins immediately before a meal.
thank you ! The part i don't get and confuses me is the part about adding basal insulin (for dual therapy). When does that get added and what is it given in combination with? Im a bit confused how basal insulin differs from normal insulin used in triple therapy.
Thanks for your help
1.7.1.1 When starting basal insulin therapy:
- continue with metformin and the sulfonylurea (and acarbose, if used)
- review the use of the sulfonylurea if hypoglycaemia occurs.
1.7.1.2 When starting pre-mixed insulin therapy (or mealtime plus basal insulin regimens):
- continue with metformin
- continue the sulfonylurea initially, but review and discontinue if hypoglycaemia occurs.
I think basal insulins are products like insulin glargine, which provide a constant supply of insulin throughout the day, mimicking physiological insulin secretion.
It wouldn't be considered physiological unless it was combined with rapid acting doses as well (i.e. mimicking what the pancreas does - low dose baseline with spikes at meals.
- continue with metformin and the sulfonylurea (and acarbose, if used)
- review the use of the sulfonylurea if hypoglycaemia occurs.
1.7.1.2 When starting pre-mixed insulin therapy (or mealtime plus basal insulin regimens):
- continue with metformin
- continue the sulfonylurea initially, but review and discontinue if hypoglycaemia occurs.
It wouldn't be considered physiological unless it was combined with rapid acting doses as well (i.e. mimicking what the pancreas does - low dose baseline with spikes at meals.
Ah that makes a lot of sense, we learned about the two phases of insulin secretion - the rapid and the slow phase. Cheers!