Is it time Europe bans Islam & muslim immigration?

What on earth are you blathering on about? Of course it was an Islamist attack. Everybody knows that. The attackers screamed "Allahu akbar" and then opened fire.

If these terrorists have "nothing to do with Islam", then why would the far left and Muslims get so upset with us pointing out it was ISIS?

Actually he blamed jews not Judaism.

People blame Islam not muslims. There are different views you should be aware of.



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The point I was trying to make was you shouldn't generalise a whole mass of people based on their [peaceful] religion. I understand that people think there are fatal flaws in islamic belief that make people do very bad things but as I pointed out in my prior point, it's just not true.

Of course, but I'm sure they will have considered the likely effect of their actions on recruitment. I would in fact put it very much the other way round: the airstrikes are an excuse to mount an attack which will cause division and ultimately recruit more people. I have said much about French monoculture and hawkishness in recent years but do not forget that we are also part of the Syria coalition etc etc etc. They know that France is the closest country in Europe to electing a fascist anti-Muslim party. Their aim is to cause division.

You are naive in thinking that the motivations of the ISIS command are genuine, i.e. they are genuinely aggrieved about the airstrikes. They love it. Plus the buggers have always been about image and theatre, the style of their attacks is very much a product of the Internet hyper sharing age and they are very good at Twitter and all that. Some elements of Western culture they are right on board with!

The KKK are not a religious/Christian organization and they don't want to kill black people because the Bible told them to. Completely irrelevant comment... educate yourself.

What a 24 carat plonker!

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Europe needs to get rid of the schengen agreement and have strict border controls across the continent. It seems like a step backwards but it's too easy for these people to enter Europe and move powerful weapons around.

I'm not anti immigration but letting millions of Syrian refugees into the continent is the most stupid thing Europe has done since the second world war. If even 0.1% of them are terrorists that is a couple of thousand fighters spread across Europe and it only took 8 of them to cause the carnage last night.

These attacks are going to become the norm, I don't think a year will go by without a major terrorist attack on European soil. Being an island and outside of schengen we're a bit safer in the UK but it could still happen here.

Again, without proof, it's just speculation. Their own claim is that it was to do with airstrikes. To charge them with any other motives would require some kind of proof. I'm not going to pretend that I know what goes on in the mind of Mr. al-Baghdadi and I suggest everybody else refrain from doing that too.



I'm trying to exit this thread as quickly as possible. Most people here are clearly just here as an alternative to stuffing their face with junk food (or alcohol, for the older ones) to assuage their sense of loss.

You can't bring immigrants into your country with the premise that they will eventually become just like everybody else. People come from their continents with their own country which they have no intention of giving up on.

Are you able to wait until the motives of the perpetrators are identified or is that too much to ask? It may very well turn out to be an Islamic group that's behind the attacks, but until then, let's keep the baseless finger-pointing to a minimum.

It astonishes me how willing people are to simply assume that it's an Islamic attack and then start debating the implications of that assumption as if it's fact.

After yet more terrible terror attacks in France is it time that Europe faces reality and bans Islam & muslim immigration to Europe, muslim attacks seems never ending, 9/11, 7/7, Lee Rigby, Madrid Bombings, Belgium attacks, Rotherham Abuse, Charlie Hebdo & now more attacks in Paris.

Border control most definitely should be tightenened, more ID checks should be introduced etc. However, banning Islam and muslim immigration is not only a fascist ideology but completely impractical as well. How can officials identify who is muslim and who is not? Unless, the person is wearing religious clithing. Also, most of the terrorists responsible for the attacks are westernized, born and bred in Europe. Perhaprs EU should pass a legislation to ban muslims from existing in Europe? Let's not forget about U-turn which is already introduced and is aiming to protect the EU external borders. It's impossible to ban a religion and its followers without dehumanising ourselves and giving green light to extreme right wing ideas.

That is a ridiculous view to have. That isn't true. Also right now people seem to be spewing the same amount of hatred towards immigrants as they are towards refugee's fleeing their countries. It's not the same thing, nor is it okay to view the situation like that.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/619363/Islamic-State-ISIS-Twitter-Paris-attacks
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34820016

Im pretty sure Hollande, given his advisors, would have intel on these people, just as they have done in the past with other terrorists who've carried out attacks in France. Im pretty sure, given his position and people he knows, that he knows more than a jumped up delusional idiot like yourself that buries their head in the sand to make a political point on a forum. Shove your leftie nonsense where the sun dont shine. This was very clearly Islamic State.