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C4 Binomial Expansion

Not sure how to do this question:
​(a) ​Given that the modulus of x > 2, find the first four terms in the series expansion of (1-2/x)^1/2
​of in descending powers of x.​
(b) ​By taking x = 200 use your series to find the sqr of 99 ,
giving your answer to 7 decimal places.
(c) ​Use your series to find the sqr of 101 to the same degree of accuracy.

Anyone have any ideas about how to tackle this?
Thank you :smile:
(edited 8 years ago)

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Reply 1
Original post by npstudent
Not sure how to do this question: ​(a) ​Given that find the first four terms in the series expansion​of in descending powers of x.​(b) ​By taking x = 200 use your series to find ,giving your answer to 7 decimal places. ​(c) ​Use your series to find to the same degree of accuracy. ​Anyone have any ideas about how to tackle this? Thank you


Umm what is the question? binomial?

I think you're missing parts of the question or I'm just not smart enough :lolwut:
(edited 8 years ago)
Given that what? I think you're missing part of the question
Reply 3
Original post by Dinaa
Umm what is the question? binomial?


Yepp
Reply 4
Original post by samb1234
Given that what? I think you're missing part of the question


Sorry, I've edited it now
Original post by npstudent
Sorry, I've edited it now


You're still missing what you're meant to expand,and what you're using x=200 to show, as well as part of c by the looks of it
Reply 6
Sorry guys the expansion didn't copy, I've edited it again
Reply 7
Original post by npstudent
Sorry guys the expansion didn't copy, I've edited it again


Wouldn't just be:

1 + (1/2)(-2/x) + (1/2)(-1/2)[(-2/x^2)/2] + (1/2)(-1/2)(-3/2)[(-2/x^3)/6)].... and so on? for a

then for b plug x in
Reply 8
Original post by Dinaa
Wouldn't just be:

1 + (1/2)(-2/x) + (1/2)(-1/2)[(-2/x^2)/2] + (1/2)(-1/2)(-3/2)[(-2/x^3)/6)].... and so on? for a

then for b plug x in


Oh thanks, i wasn't sure whether you could do it like that since it's 2/x and the mod of x>2 (although idk how or if the latter affects it)
Original post by npstudent
Oh thanks, i wasn't sure whether you could do it like that since it's 2/x and the mod of x>2 (although idk how or if the latter affects it)


You have to put the condition of mod x otherwise you end up dividing by 0 - not good. It doesn't affect the expansion though
Reply 10
Original post by npstudent
Oh thanks, i wasn't sure whether you could do it like that since it's 2/x and the mod of x>2 (although idk how or if the latter affects it)


If |x| is not > 2 then your series is divergent unless the power you are raising the parenthetical expression is a positive integer.
Reply 11
Original post by npstudent
Oh thanks, i wasn't sure whether you could do it like that since it's 2/x and the mod of x>2 (although idk how or if the latter affects it)


I'm not the brightest sooo

@Student403
@Dick Diamonds

:u:
Reply 12
Original post by jayceedee
You have to put the condition of mod x otherwise you end up dividing by 0 - not good. It doesn't affect the expansion though


Ah I see, thank you
Reply 13
Original post by Dinaa
I'm not the brightest sooo

@Student403
@Dick Diamonds

:u:


Lol don't worry, I think you're right !
Original post by Dinaa
I'm not the brightest sooo

@Student403
@Dick Diamonds

:u:


I appreciate the compliment but neither am I :colondollar:

@Zacken
Reply 15
Original post by jayceedee
You have to put the condition of mod x otherwise you end up dividing by 0 - not good. It doesn't affect the expansion though


That is not the reason.
Reply 16
Original post by jayceedee
You have to put the condition of mod x otherwise you end up dividing by 0 - not good. It doesn't affect the expansion though


Original post by npstudent
Ah I see, thank you


Don't listen to that. It's wrong. The binomial expansion (1+x)n(1+x)^n for non-natural powers is only valid for x<1|x| <1. (that is the power series converges in this radius), now map x2xx \mapsto \left|\frac{2}{x}\right| and the same condition states that x>2|x|>2.

Original post by lig1729
That is not the reason.


Indeed, thank you for pointing that out.
(edited 8 years ago)
Reply 17
Original post by Student403
I appreciate the compliment but neither am I :colondollar:

@Zacken


You're too harsh on yourself :tongue:

Original post by npstudent
Lol don't worry, I think you're right !


When you're done can you tell me your answer :u:
Reply 18
Original post by npstudent
Oh thanks, i wasn't sure whether you could do it like that since it's 2/x and the mod of x>2 (although idk how or if the latter affects it)


You can use that expansion for anything of the form (1+f(x))n(1+f(x))^n for rational nn.
Reply 19
Original post by Zacken
Don't listen to that. It's wrong. The binomial expansion (1+x)n(1+x)^n for non-natural powers is only valid for x<1|x| <1. (that is the power series converges in this radius), now map x2xx \mapsto \left|\frac{2}{x}\right| and the same condition states that x>2|x|>2.



Indeed, thank you for pointing that out. I really wish some people wouldn't blurt out what they say without knowing anything about it.


Woah :redface: that was a tad harsh

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