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Original post by Marccs
Hi
Can someone help me with why the impulse for part B is 2100 and not 2700 ?

Can you post working to show how you got 2700?
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Original post by notnek
Can you post working to show how you got 2700?


I was doing it again to post the working and then I got the right answer , it was a sign change mistake
Thanks :smile:
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I have no clue how to find parallel vectors. Could someone help me out with the b) part ?


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I have no clue how to find parallel vectors. Could someone help me out with the b) part ?


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can you tell me what paper it is?
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I have no clue how to find parallel vectors. Could someone help me out with the b) part ?


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Original post by Kawaii289
can you tell me what paper it is?


It's January 2014


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Original post by KloppOClock
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Thank you very much. It was very helpful :smile:


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Thank you very much. It was very helpful :smile:


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no problem
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Hi
Can anyone help me with this vectors question
The whole question is quite confusing
Original post by Marccs
Hi
Can anyone help me with this vectors question
The whole question is quite confusing


Is this from an official paper?
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Original post by KloppOClock
Is this from an official paper?


Yes June 2001
Original post by Marccs
Hi
Can anyone help me with this vectors question
The whole question is quite confusing


a) 6i + 8j
If he is on the pipe he must have an i value of 6. If he the radio tower is SW of him, the j value between him and the mast is the same as the i value between him and the mast. The tower is at (0i + 2j) and he is at (6i + xj) --> the i difference is 6 so the j difference is 6 as well, meaning he has a j value of 8

b) His distance from the origin is route(6^2 + 8^2) (pythag) which is 10km. If they're travelling at 5km/h, it'll take 2 hours.

c) 6i - 4j
Same logic as a)

Didn't try d) because idk if I've got this right

Edit: fixed typo
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Original post by neon_reaper
a) 6i + 8j
If he is on the pipe he must have an i value of 6. If he the radio tower is SW of him, the j value between him and the mast is the same as the i value between him and the mast. The tower is at (0i + 2j) and he is at (6i + xj) --> the i difference is 6 so the j difference is 6 as well, meaning he has a j value of 8

b) His distance from the origin is route(6^2 + 8^2) (pythag) which is 10km. If they're travelling at 5km/h, it'll take 2 hours.

c) 6i - 4j
Same logic as a)

Didn't try d) because idk if I've got this right

Edit: fixed typo


For all North West and South West etc is it the difference of i components and j components , or is there a negative sign needed?
Original post by Marccs
For all North West and South West etc is it the difference of i components and j components , or is there a negative sign needed?


Kind of both, it depends which direction you're going. If you think about it on a graph, North is positive (+j), West is positive (+i), South is negative (-j), and East is negative (-i).

So say O is (0,0) and P is (x, 5), and P is directly NW of O. The j difference is 5 so the i difference is 5 as well and because W is positive, its 5i.

If P were NE of O, the i difference is still 5 but because E is negative, its -5i.
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Original post by neon_reaper
Kind of both, it depends which direction you're going. If you think about it on a graph, North is positive (+j), West is positive (+i), South is negative (-j), and East is negative (-i).

So say O is (0,0) and P is (x, 5), and P is directly NW of O. The j difference is 5 so the i difference is 5 as well and because W is positive, its 5i.

If P were NE of O, the i difference is still 5 but because E is negative, its -5i.


So taking N is J and E is I
NE : +J +i
SE: -J + i
SW: -J -i
NW: +J-i

So why for part a were it was SW we took both i and j as +ve
Original post by Marccs
So taking N is J and E is I
NE : +J +i
SE: -J + i
SW: -J -i
NW: +J-i

So why for part a were it was SW we took both i and j as +ve


Because if the mast was SW of the man, he was NW of the mast.
Alternatively you could have done man(6i + xj), mast(0i + 2j).
The difference is -6 on both i and j because the mast is SW, so
(i) 6-6=0 and (j) x-6=2

I find it helps to draw it on a graph
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Original post by neon_reaper
Because if the mast was SW of the man, he was NW of the mast.
Alternatively you could have done man(6i + xj), mast(0i + 2j).
The difference is -6 on both i and j because the mast is SW, so
(i) 6-6=0 and (j) x-6=2

I find it helps to draw it on a graph


Thank You I just understood it now :smile:
OMG I'M LOSING MY MIND I'VE FORGOTTEN BASIC MATHS I UNDERSTOOD THIS LIKE A MONTH AGO NOW WHEN I DO M1 AFTER AGES I'VE FORGOTTEN. I'm going to seem really stupid :/ but can anyone explain why it's F = 2Tcos45 Why am I stuck on the easy things

The hypotenuse is F, and so shouldn't it be Fcos45 = T x2 so F = 2T/cos45?
Original post by KINGYusuf
OMG I'M LOSING MY MIND I'VE FORGOTTEN BASIC MATHS I UNDERSTOOD THIS LIKE A MONTH AGO NOW WHEN I DO M1 AFTER AGES I'VE FORGOTTEN. I'm going to seem really stupid :/ but can anyone explain why it's F = 2Tcos45 Why am I stuck on the easy things

The hypotenuse is F, and so shouldn't it be Fcos45 = T x2 so F = 2T/cos45?


The hypotenuse of T isn't F, the hypotenuse of the resultant off boths T's is F.

Resolve each tension force separately, then add both forces together. Seen as the tensions are equal, you can just times by 2, as they resolve the same horizontally and vertically.

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Original post by KloppOClock
The hypotenuse of T isn't F, the hypotenuse of the resultant off boths T's is F.

Resolve each tension force separately, then add both forces together. Seen as the tensions are equal, you can just times by 2, as they resolve the same horizontally and vertically.

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Diagrams looking good bro :wink:

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