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A*A*A* for Mathematics at Imperial 2018 entry

For those of you thinking of applying to Imperial for BSc Mathematics next year - you'll be interested to learn that for 2018 for Mathematics at Imperial, their "Typical Offer" has now increased to A*A*A - A*A*A* plus STEP/MAT

http://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/ug/courses/mathematics-department/mathematics-bsc/

Checking the Cambridge Uni requirements for 2018 - they remain A*A*A plus STEP

That's rather bold of Imperial! Agree? Thoughts?
Not bold in the slightest. If a significant number of students are getting straight A*'s at A-level then it makes sense to raise the offer.

In fact, it just goes to show how easy A-levels have become if so many students are reaching the top grades with relative ease.
Yes - since (based on a rough Google search) approximately 40% of candidates score A*/A in Maths A Level (17% A*) and 55% score A*/A in FM (30% A*)

https://qualifications.pearson.com/content/dam/pdf/Support/Grade-statistics/A-level/June_2016_(Provisional)_GCE_Advanced_(including_Single_Awards_Applied_Subjects).PDF

http://www.bstubbs.co.uk/a-lev.htm

then Imperial are looking to ensure they take the top candidates.

Cambridge can perhaps afford to be not as strict on grades as they 1) interview and 2) cull using STEP 1
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Original post by mathsinsider
For those of you thinking of applying to Imperial for BSc Mathematics next year - you'll be interested to learn that for 2018 for Mathematics at Imperial, their "Typical Offer" has now increased to A*A*A - A*A*A* plus STEP/MAT

http://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/ug/courses/mathematics-department/mathematics-bsc/

Checking the Cambridge Uni requirements for 2018 - they remain A*A*A plus STEP

That's rather bold of Imperial! Agree? Thoughts?


can u actually be arsed?
The entry requirements are A*A*A. However Imperial is notorious for giving offers higher than the entry requirements. At-least they are being honest now
Wow, what a stupid comment. How is what he got even remotely relevant to his point? It is a fact that plenty of students are finding it extremely easy to get A*s in Maths and Further Maths. I think you're the one that's bitter, presumably because A Levels are too difficult for you and you can't accept that some people find them easy.

It does make sense to raise the offer if too many applicants are easily making the grades. But I don't think a third A* is relevant. STEP grades would be a better addition.
As an IC grad from 20+ years ago with 2 kids sitting GCSEs and A Levels, our family have had the conversation about whether exams are indeed easier. This link contains archives of exam papers going back to 1957 which might offer some evidence in the above argument http://www.cambridgeassessment.org.uk/our-research/archives-service/past-exam-material/maths/
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mathsinsider
That's rather bold of Imperial! Agree? Thoughts?


People use entry requirements such as this to argue that exams are getting easier, but it's incredibly narrow minded of them to do so. This is because multiple factors go into the A-Level requirements for a degree course. For example:

How popular the course is.

The requirements for universities of a similar standing.

The image the university wishes to uphold in regards to that course.

The expectations students should have when applying for that course.


Studying maths at Imperial is extremely competitive, as the university is incredibly prestigious, and thus attracts some of the most academically gifted students from across the world.

The entry requirements reflect the demand for a place to study mathematics at the university. Also, having an offer higher than Cambridge or Oxford sends out the message that its students are more academically gifted. I'm not saying that this is true, but it will be an influential factor when deciding its place in the university league tables, especially when it comes to its maths degree course.

It should be noted that creating such a high level of competitiveness comes at a price. Students are less likely to support each other at extremely competitive institutions, and the quality of your social life is likely to be poorer, as huge sacrifices will need to be made to maintain your academic performance.

I turned down the offer to study at Imperial when it was presented to me, for the reasons mentioned above. This was back when the offer was A*AA.

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