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Question on binomial theorem

Question:
Find the first four terms of the expansion of (18x)0.5 (1-8x)^{0.5} in ascending of x. Substitute x=1100 x = \frac{1}{100} and obtain the value of 23 \sqrt{23} correct to five significant figures

a) find the first four terms of the expansion of (18x)0.5 (1-8x)^{0.5} in ascending of x.
(18x)0.5=(1+((0.5)(8x))+(0.5)(0.5)(8x)21×2+(0.5)(0.5)(1.5)(8x)31×2×3) (1-8x)^{0.5} = \left ( 1 + ((0.5)(-8x))+\frac{(0.5)(-0.5)(-8x)^{2}}{1 \times 2} + \frac{(0.5)(-0.5)(-1.5)(-8x)^{3}}{1 \times 2 \times 3} \right )
(14x8x232x3) \left ( 1-4x -8x^2 - 32x^3 \right )

b)Substitute
Unparseable latex formula:

x = \rac{1}{100}

and obtain the value of 23 \sqrt{23} correct to five significant figures
I have problem with this part

now it says to sub x=1100 x = \frac{1}{100}
so; (1(81100))0.5=0.9591663047 \left ( 1 - (8\frac{1}{100}) \right )^{0.5} = 0.9591663047

using the expansion;

(14x8x232x3) \left ( 1-4x -8x^2 - 32x^3 \right )

i sub x = 1/00 into the expansion

(1(4(1100))(8(1100)2)(32(1100)3)) \left ( 1-\left (4 \left(\frac{1}{100}\right) \right) -\left (8\left(\frac{1}{100}\right)^{2} \right) - \left ( 32\left ( \frac{1}{100} \right )^{3} \right ) \right )

it produces 0.959168
i know that 23=4.795831523 \sqrt{23} =4.795831523

My issue is that I dont know why I am not getting 4.795831523
since part b is a simple substitution question asking me to sub x = 1/100 shouldn't the I get the answer 4.795831523, when i sub x= 1/100 into the expansion or binomial.

thank you for helping me
(edited 4 years ago)
Reply 1
X = 1/100 does not produce sqrt(23) for
(1 - 8x)^0.5
Just sub in the value?

How can you transform
(1 - 8/100)^0.5
Into sqrt(23)?
Original post by bigmansouf
Question:
Find the first four terms of the expansion of (18x)0.5 (1-8x)^{0.5} in ascending of x. Substitute x=1100 x = \frac{1}{100} and obtain the value of 23 \sqrt{23} correct to five significant figures

a) find the first four terms of the expansion of (18x)0.5 (1-8x)^{0.5} in ascending of x.
(18x)0.5=(1+((0.5)(8x))+(0.5)(0.5)(8x)21×2+(0.5)(0.5)(1.5)(8x)31×2×3) (1-8x)^{0.5} = \left ( 1 + ((0.5)(-8x))+\frac{(0.5)(-0.5)(-8x)^{2}}{1 \times 2} + \frac{(0.5)(-0.5)(-1.5)(-8x)^{3}}{1 \times 2 \times 3} \right )
(14x8x232x3) \left ( 1-4x -8x^2 - 32x^3 \right )

b)Substitute
Unparseable latex formula:

x = \rac{1}{100}

and obtain the value of 23 \sqrt{23} correct to five significant figures
I have problem with this part

now it says to sub x=1100 x = \frac{1}{100}
so; (1(81100))0.5=0.9591663047 \left ( 1 - (8\frac{1}{100}) \right )^{0.5} = 0.9591663047

using the expansion;

(14x8x232x3) \left ( 1-4x -8x^2 - 32x^3 \right )

i sub x = 1/00 into the expansion

(1(4(1100))(8(1100)2)(32(1100)3)) \left ( 1-\left (4 \left(\frac{1}{100}\right) \right) -\left (8\left(\frac{1}{100}\right)^{2} \right) - \left ( 32\left ( \frac{1}{100} \right )^{3} \right ) \right )

it produces 0.959168
i know that 23=4.795831523 \sqrt{23} =4.795831523

My issue is that I dont know why I am not getting 4.795831523
since part b is a simple substitution question asking me to sub x = 1/100 shouldn't the I get the answer 4.795831523, when i sub x= 1/100 into the expansion or binomial.

thank you for helping me
(edited 4 years ago)
Reply 2
Original post by bigmansouf
Question:
Find the first four terms of the expansion of (18x)0.5 (1-8x)^{0.5} in ascending of x. Substitute x=1100 x = \frac{1}{100} and obtain the value of 23 \sqrt{23} correct to five significant figures

a) find the first four terms of the expansion of (18x)0.5 (1-8x)^{0.5} in ascending of x.
(18x)0.5=(1+((0.5)(8x))+(0.5)(0.5)(8x)21×2+(0.5)(0.5)(1.5)(8x)31×2×3) (1-8x)^{0.5} = \left ( 1 + ((0.5)(-8x))+\frac{(0.5)(-0.5)(-8x)^{2}}{1 \times 2} + \frac{(0.5)(-0.5)(-1.5)(-8x)^{3}}{1 \times 2 \times 3} \right )
(14x8x232x3) \left ( 1-4x -8x^2 - 32x^3 \right )

b)Substitute
Unparseable latex formula:

x = \rac{1}{100}

and obtain the value of 23 \sqrt{23} correct to five significant figures
I have problem with this part

now it says to sub x=1100 x = \frac{1}{100}
so; (1(81100))0.5=0.9591663047 \left ( 1 - (8\frac{1}{100}) \right )^{0.5} = 0.9591663047

using the expansion;

(14x8x232x3) \left ( 1-4x -8x^2 - 32x^3 \right )

i sub x = 1/00 into the expansion

(1(4(1100))(8(1100)2)(32(1100)3)) \left ( 1-\left (4 \left(\frac{1}{100}\right) \right) -\left (8\left(\frac{1}{100}\right)^{2} \right) - \left ( 32\left ( \frac{1}{100} \right )^{3} \right ) \right )

it produces 0.959168
i know that 23=4.795831523 \sqrt{23} =4.795831523

My issue is that I dont know why I am not getting 4.795831523
since part b is a simple substitution question asking me to sub x = 1/100 shouldn't the I get the answer 4.795831523, when i sub x= 1/100 into the expansion or binomial.

thank you for helping me


You can only have worked out the value of the LHS when x = 1/100 with a calculator. This defeats the object of the question - the idea of binomial approximations in this context is to find the approximate value of roots by using only addition and multiplication of rational numbers.

When you substitute x = 1/100 into the LHS, you get (1 - 8/100)^0.5 = (1 - 2/25)^0.5 = (23/25)^0.5. Does that give you any ideas?
Reply 3
Original post by mqb2766
X = 1/100 does not produce sqrt(23) for
(1 - 8x)^0.5
Just sub in the value?

Can you transform
(1 - 8/100)^0.5
Into sqrt(23)?


yes i can i get (2325)0.5 \left ( \frac{23}{25} \right )^{0.5}
i see now i thought that binomial theorem can be used to find approx but this question is not asking me the approximate to the square roof of 23
i thought that it was an approximate type of question. I personally do not see the point of part b and what it is trying to teach me
Reply 4
Original post by bigmansouf
yes i can i get (2325)0.5 \left ( \frac{23}{25} \right )^{0.5}
i see now i thought that binomial theorem can be used to find approx but this question is not asking me the approximate to the square roof of 23
i thought that it was an approximate type of question. I personally do not see the point of part b and what it is trying to teach me


It is asking for an approximation to root 23. Keep going. Split up the (23/25)^0.5.
Reply 5
So multiply the answer you got by 5.
Original post by bigmansouf
yes i can i get (2325)0.5 \left ( \frac{23}{25} \right )^{0.5}
i see now i thought that binomial theorem can be used to find approx but this question is not asking me the approximate to the square roof of 23
i thought that it was an approximate type of question. I personally do not see the point of part b and what it is trying to teach me
Reply 6
Original post by Pangol
You can only have worked out the value of the LHS when x = 1/100 with a calculator. This defeats the object of the question - the idea of binomial approximations in this context is to find the approximate value of roots by using only addition and multiplication of rational numbers.

When you substitute x = 1/100 into the LHS, you get (1 - 8/100)^0.5 = (1 - 2/25)^0.5 = (23/25)^0.5. Does that give you any ideas?


(23/25)0.5 (23/25)^0.5 can be changed to (1(4(1100))(8(1100)2)(32(1100)3)) \left ( 1-\left (4 \left(\frac{1}{100}\right) \right) -\left (8\left(\frac{1}{100}\right)^{2} \right) - \left ( 32\left ( \frac{1}{100} \right )^{3} \right ) \right )

then to transfer to 23 \sqrt{23} by multiplying (1(4(1100))(8(1100)2)(32(1100)3)) \left ( 1-\left (4 \left(\frac{1}{100}\right) \right) -\left (8\left(\frac{1}{100}\right)^{2} \right) - \left ( 32\left ( \frac{1}{100} \right )^{3} \right ) \right ) by 5

thus;

5×(1(4(1100))(8(1100)2)(32(1100)3)) 5 \times \left ( 1-\left (4 \left(\frac{1}{100}\right) \right) -\left (8\left(\frac{1}{100}\right)^{2} \right) - \left ( 32\left ( \frac{1}{100} \right )^{3} \right ) \right )
Reply 7
i get it now
thanks
Reply 8
Original post by bigmansouf
(23/25)0.5 (23/25)^0.5 can be changed to (1(4(1100))(8(1100)2)(32(1100)3)) \left ( 1-\left (4 \left(\frac{1}{100}\right) \right) -\left (8\left(\frac{1}{100}\right)^{2} \right) - \left ( 32\left ( \frac{1}{100} \right )^{3} \right ) \right )

then to transfer to 23 \sqrt{23} by multiplying (1(4(1100))(8(1100)2)(32(1100)3)) \left ( 1-\left (4 \left(\frac{1}{100}\right) \right) -\left (8\left(\frac{1}{100}\right)^{2} \right) - \left ( 32\left ( \frac{1}{100} \right )^{3} \right ) \right ) by 5

thus;

5×(1(4(1100))(8(1100)2)(32(1100)3)) 5 \times \left ( 1-\left (4 \left(\frac{1}{100}\right) \right) -\left (8\left(\frac{1}{100}\right)^{2} \right) - \left ( 32\left ( \frac{1}{100} \right )^{3} \right ) \right )


That's it - so it is an approximation question!
Reply 9
One thing its trying to teach you is that while the expansion is only valid for
|x|<1/8
So for sqrt of 0 to 2 .
You can use transformations to apply it to other numbers outside this range.
Original post by bigmansouf
yes i can i get (2325)0.5 \left ( \frac{23}{25} \right )^{0.5}
i see now i thought that binomial theorem can be used to find approx but this question is not asking me the approximate to the square roof of 23
i thought that it was an approximate type of question. I personally do not see the point of part b and what it is trying to teach me
(edited 4 years ago)

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