Anonymity for Rape Accused

Obviously it's terrible that a few men are wrongly accused of rape. But right now, we need to be sending out the signal that rape victims should be taken more seriously, not less.

And there are way, way more cases of women being accused of lying about rape and genuine rapists being let off.

Obviously it's terrible that a few men are wrongly accused of rape. But right now, we need to be sending out the signal that rape victims should be taken more seriously, not less.

I think the benefits of anonymity for the accused far outweigh the potential negatives which may not even exist.

The low conviction rate doesn't necessarily mean all of the 94% are guaranteed to be rapists, there are numerous reasons for the low rate of conviction and whether or not anonymity exists has nothing to do with it.

You still haven't said how the introduction of anonymity will affect the conviction rate.

Granting anonymity for the defendant does not mean that the victim is taken less seriously.

I am sorry your argument does not hold weight.

Rape is a very serious crime, forensics and such are used to try link the suspect, just as in any serious armed robbery, murder etc..

If it can not be proven beyond doubt then it can't be proven, just like occasional any other crime can not be proven. Rape victims are no worse off than attempted murder victims and violent gbh victims who do not get convictions. What do you want to do? Oh we don't have enough proof but you can go to prison anyway?

Frankly it seems the reason conviction rates are soo low from my view is the women to not come forward when the evidence is fresh. Which is sadly no one's fault but there own. Without the forensics it is a bitch to get a conviction, just like any serious crime.

I think the women are already not being taken seriously, which is why this proposal is being made.

I think the women are already not being taken seriously, which is why this proposal is being made.

You can have your opinion, but the fact is our conviction rate is almost the lowest in Europe, and investigations have shown that we fail dismally in the way we- and the justice system- treat rape victims.

I don't.




But women not being taken seriously about their accusations does have something to do with it.




No, I haven't. Was I supposed to or something?

I don't understand your logic there. You do realise that anonymity for the defendant is not mutually exclusive to taking victims more seriously, right?

It's absolutely right, and I'm glad to see this finally happen.

Frankly, I wish more crimes had anonymity for the accused. Imagine if you were accused of paedophilia and cleared - you would still be labelled a paedophile wherever you went and whatever you did, even if there was no evidence supporting the accusation. Talk about your life being in tatters . . .

But frankly, I think there also needs to be a serious and frank discussion in the public arena about the severity of falsely accusing someone of a crime. It can ruin a life.

Can you explain what you mean by how the justice system treat victims? With details?

How do you know women aren't being taken seriously, a low rate of conviction does not mean rape cases are disregarded by police and the judicial system. Do you have any evidence for this apart from the low conviction rate which doesn't prove anything about how police treat rape claims.

Oh, and you keep on referring to this low conviction rate which seems to be the basis of your argument about how rapes aren't treated seriously (insult to police and judicial system imo) so yes, you do need to justify how this legislation will have a negative effect on conviction rates.

Show me the post where I claimed this legislation would have a negative effect on conviction rates.

Well then you're being ridiculous. You want to keep ruining innocent men's lives not because you think it results in more convictions of guilty ones, but because you think it's insulting to rape victims to grant anonymity to the accused?

The man's career, safety and well-being take precedence over the victim's feelings unless he is found guilty.