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Original post by Genesis2703
Hmmm ok I think i get it, I see what you mean about if and only if. But surely is a condition is necessary it is in itself sufficient? Because if you need it then of course it will work with it :s


Sorry, my post was ill worded, I have made it clearer.
Original post by Appeal to reason
In Q2, am I allowed to use
Unparseable latex formula:

\int\frac{1}{\sqrt{a^2+x^2}}\dx = \sinh^{-1}(\frac{x}{a})

? (This is what I did :/)


It says "hence", so you must use the previous part. From the exam report:

"Some candidates resorted to the formula book and quoted the standard integral dxa2+x2\displaystyle\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{a^2+x^2}} however, this gained no credit as the question explicitly said hence."
Original post by Lord of the Flies
It says "hence", so you must use the previous part. From the exam report:

"Some candidates resorted to the formula book and quoted the standard integral dxa2+x2\displaystyle\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{a^2+x^2}} however, this gained no credit as the question explicitly said hence."


Ugh. Perhaps it didn't go as well as I had hoped, I thought I had 2 almost complete questions, looks like I only have the 1.
I had tried to get it using the previous stuff, with no success, so I was all "Yolo" and whacked out the FP2.
Original post by Appeal to reason
Ugh. Perhaps it didn't go as well as I had hoped, I thought I had 2 almost complete questions, looks like I only have the 1.
I had tried to get it using the previous stuff, with no success, so I was all "Yolo" and whacked out the FP2.


It's probably quicker to use the sub suggested anyhow...
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You know when you've posted too much when you need an extra thread because the first became too big
Original post by shamika
You know when you've posted too much when you need an extra thread because the first became too big


Or when you're a TSR legend...:ninja: I'm really going to delete my account in October.
Original post by bananarama2
It's probably quicker to use the sub suggested anyhow...


1x2+2bx+cdx\int\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2+2bx+c}}dx

1(x+b)2+(cb2)dx\int\frac{1}{\sqrt{(x+b)^2+(c-b^2)}}dx

ln(x+b+(x+b)2+(cb)2)ln (x+b +\sqrt{(x+b)^2+(c-b)^2})

ln(x+b+x2+2bx+c)ln (x+b+\sqrt{x^2+2bx+c})

Hardly a slow method.
I couldn't even work out how to use the suggested sub.
Why have I even applied for maths... :facepalm:
Original post by Appeal to reason
1x2+2bx+cdx\int\frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2+2bx+c}}dx

1(x+b)2+(cb2)dx\int\frac{1}{\sqrt{(x+b)^2+(c-b^2)}}dx

ln(x+b+(x+b)2+(cb)2)ln (x+b +\sqrt{(x+b)^2+(c-b)^2})

ln(x+b+x2+2bx+c)ln (x+b+\sqrt{x^2+2bx+c})

Hardly a slow method.
I couldn't even work out how to use the suggested sub.
Why have I even applied for maths... :facepalm:


I think personally I'd put one or two extra lines of working in because I'm a pro at slip ups :tongue: Whereas with there sub there is less algebra :tongue:
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I have an odd problem with STEP I '88 Q5...

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Original post by Sketch
I have an odd problem with STEP I '88 Q5...

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My attempt on I 2008 goes as follows:
1: Did the first half, (A, B and C) got a couple of the pairs for the last part (this was the last question I attempted, so I didn't have time to finish it)
2: A complete solution aside from me not using the hence, so I lose all the marks for that bit (which I imagine was the bulk of the marks, as the other bits were straight forward).
3: most of i) done, didn't actually do the introduction bit correctly, couldn't see how to get at ii), so moved on.
4: saw sketching, and was put off straight away, I drew the first diagram as I wasn't quite sure if I could find any more appealing questions.
6: Did it all except the explanation at the end, calculated f(1/2) and g(k), drew a diagram, but didn't make the step to "These areas can add together to form a k by 1/2 rectangle."
10: Did the same as 4 - drew the diagram then decided against it as it looked like an algebraic battle.
13: Had a look at this but didn't get anything meaningful put down, so moved on after 15 mins.

What do you think I would have got?
Had it been the actual exam, and I wasn't restricted to 6 pure questions, I probably would have done better - wouldn't have wasted my time with 4/10/13 and would have just done 5 and 8 instead.
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Original post by bananarama2

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Not too sure why it's an approx either when I look at it.. I've edited it :smile:

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Original post by Sketch
Not too sure why it's an approx either when I look at it.. I've edited it :smile:

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Original post by DJMayes
Q5 of STEP II, 1991 is the stuff of dreams.

(That said, the final bit is somewhat irritating if you know the easier and faster way of doing it but have to do it similarly anyway. :ninja: )


Q6 is to do with special relativity XD

Edit: My papers are labelled wrongly.
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Reply 34
People generally talk about how you should always look at the Applied part, but I can never really tell whether my knowledge would be sufficient enough if I only read through them briefly. Should I even attempt them at all?
Just have a feeling that the Pure part in III going to be tough this year. :banghead:
Original post by DJMayes
Q5 of STEP II, 1991 is the stuff of dreams.

(That said, the final bit is somewhat irritating if you know the easier and faster way of doing it but have to do it similarly anyway. :ninja: )


If they didn't have that similarly, you could probably just note that that sum is the maclaurin series of arctan x with 1 substituted and immediately write down the result in less than one line, anyway doing it there way is more fun. :smile:
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Original post by Appeal to reason
My attempt on I 2008 goes as follows:
1: Did the first half, (A, B and C) got a couple of the pairs for the last part (this was the last question I attempted, so I didn't have time to finish it)
2: A complete solution aside from me not using the hence, so I lose all the marks for that bit (which I imagine was the bulk of the marks, as the other bits were straight forward).
3: most of i) done, didn't actually do the introduction bit correctly, couldn't see how to get at ii), so moved on.
4: saw sketching, and was put off straight away, I drew the first diagram as I wasn't quite sure if I could find any more appealing questions.
6: Did it all except the explanation at the end, calculated f(1/2) and g(k), drew a diagram, but didn't make the step to "These areas can add together to form a k by 1/2 rectangle."
10: Did the same as 4 - drew the diagram then decided against it as it looked like an algebraic battle.
13: Had a look at this but didn't get anything meaningful put down, so moved on after 15 mins.

What do you think I would have got?
Had it been the actual exam, and I wasn't restricted to 6 pure questions, I probably would have done better - wouldn't have wasted my time with 4/10/13 and would have just done 5 and 8 instead.


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Reply 37
If we have to integrate something like 1/(4+x^2), can we use the formula booklet or do we have to do it from scratch (i.e. substitute tan)? Would the requirement differ depending on whether we're doing I, II or III?
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Original post by scherzi
If we have to integrate something like 1/(4+x^2), can we use the formula booklet or do we have to do it from scratch (i.e. substitute tan)? Would the requirement differ depending on whether we're doing I, II or III?


it's quotable unless the question says otherwise (as with all things in the formula book)
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Original post by bananarama2

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Original post by bananarama2

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Ahh, that is sweet :smile: thanks for that!


Original post by bananarama2
Q6 is to do with special relativity XD

Edit: My papers are labelled wrongly.


Which paper does have Special Relativity? I wanna see! :colone:
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