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AQA Physics PHYA4 - Thursday 11th June 2015 [Exam Discussion Thread]

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Reply 2160
Original post by EmiratesCaptain
Should have said 'by astronomical units!' :wink:


That pun... Was out of this world.


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Does anybody know where the 0.17 comes from for question 1biii and why there are bumps on the graph for part c? Thanks a lot.

QP: http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-2-QP-JUN12.PDF

MS:http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-W-MS-JUN12.PDF
Original post by JJBinn
Does anybody know where the 0.17 comes from for question 1biii and why there are bumps on the graph for part c? Thanks a lot.

QP: http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-2-QP-JUN12.PDF

MS:http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-W-MS-JUN12.PDF


Force is equal to the rate of change of momentum.

F=delta mv/delta t
mg=1.68
m= 1.68 x 9.81


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Original post by JJBinn
Does anybody know where the 0.17 comes from for question 1biii and why there are bumps on the graph for part c? Thanks a lot.

QP: http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-2-QP-JUN12.PDF

MS:http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-W-MS-JUN12.PDF


That's part iii) hope it helps :smile:

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Original post by JJBinn
Does anybody know where the 0.17 comes from for question 1biii and why there are bumps on the graph for part c? Thanks a lot.

QP: http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-2-QP-JUN12.PDF

MS:http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-W-MS-JUN12.PDF


I had a go of explaining part c too :smile: hope this helps a little bit if you can read my rubbish writing

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Thanks for the efforts guys, really appreciate it. I understand it now I think, just one last thing, the 1.68N is the force at a given second. So is that basically saying you have an extra mass of 0.17kg at a given second due to the extra weight from momentum and this is why it is irrespective of the fact it's 10 seconds in total?

So if the question asked about the mass after 20 seconds, the amount you add for the momentum would always be 0.17?
Original post by JJBinn
Thanks for the efforts guys, really appreciate it. I understand it now I think, just one last thing, the 1.68N is the force at a given second. So is that basically saying you have an extra mass of 0.17kg at a given second due to the extra weight from momentum and this is why it is irrespective of the fact it's 10 seconds in total?

So if the question asked about the mass after 20 seconds, the amount you add for the momentum would always be 0.17?


Yep :smile:

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Thanks man that was very helpful :smile:
Reply 2168
Is the mark scheme strict with the numerical values for answers in this paper? As in if you're doing the right thing, but your answer is very slightly different from the one they've put.
Original post by FN510
Is the mark scheme strict with the numerical values for answers in this paper? As in if you're doing the right thing, but your answer is very slightly different from the one they've put.


Yes they are!

You have to make sure you put any numerical answer in the correct number of significant figures.

Unfortunately they do not usually tell you what is the correct number of significant figures is, it is something that you'll have to figure out when you tackle the questions.

It is usually 2 or 3 significant figures.

People usually do not score the final answer mark just because they didn't round it to the correct significant figure even if their answer is correct.
Original post by Disney0702
Yes they are!

You have to make sure you put any numerical answer in the correct number of significant figures.

Unfortunately they do not usually tell you what is the correct number of significant figures is, it is something that you'll have to figure out when you tackle the questions.

It is usually 2 or 3 significant figures.

People usually do not score the final answer mark just because they didn't round it to the correct significant figure even if their answer is correct.


Incorrect significant figures only get penalised in certain questions. There are usually 1 or 2 of these questions in each paper and they always say "Give your answer to an appropriate number of significant figures". :smile:
Reply 2171
Original post by sam_97
Incorrect significant figures only get penalised in certain questions. There are usually 1 or 2 of these questions in each paper and they always say "Give your answer to an appropriate number of significant figures". :smile:


That's true. I find it funny when I give so many incorrect number of sig figs on the questions that don't worry about it and then suddenly give the correct number on the question that asked for it :L


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Not understanding how to get the efficiency on 25, whenever I do it it comes out as about 68%, really weird. I am also confused over 10,12 and 13 although I managed to get them right by judgement, I don't really understand them. If anybody could explain some/all of these questions that'd be awesome. Thanks

http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-1-QP-JAN13.PDF
Reply 2173
Original post by JJBinn
Not understanding how to get the efficiency on 25, whenever I do it it comes out as about 68%, really weird. I am also confused over 10,12 and 13 although I managed to get them right by judgement, I don't really understand them. If anybody could explain some/all of these questions that'd be awesome. Thanks

http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-1-QP-JAN13.PDF


I'm out of the house at the moment but here's some workings I have on my phone saved from previous questions:

Question 10:
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Reply 2174
Original post by JJBinn
Not understanding how to get the efficiency on 25, whenever I do it it comes out as about 68%, really weird. I am also confused over 10,12 and 13 although I managed to get them right by judgement, I don't really understand them. If anybody could explain some/all of these questions that'd be awesome. Thanks

http://filestore.aqa.org.uk/subjects/AQA-PHYA4-1-QP-JAN13.PDF


And question 12:
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Sorry I don't have the others! Let me know if you still need help when I'm back at home :smile:


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Can anyone help me with 13, I know it acts downwards and I know field strength is constant but how do I work out the potential; thanks :smile:)


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Can I have some help with these 2, I don't know what the formula/units for potential gradient are.

And also for question 1 I've always just accepted this, how do you work it out :smile:


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I thought that the centripetal force acted towards the centre of oscillation? But the mark schemes answer says t=mv^2/l+mg

Thanks for any help!


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On average around 7 or 8 of the qyestions on the paper have been re used. Good to know 😉


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