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C4 - Parametric equation

Need help with 9iii.

Crosses x-axis when y=0 and crosses y-axis when x=0

Crosses x-axis 4ysinp=12

y = 12/ 4sinp --> 3sinp

Crosses y-axis 3xcosp=12
x =12/3cosp =4cosp

Apparently it is 3/sinp and 4/cosp

Can someone explain why?
(edited 8 years ago)
Reply 1
Original post by Super199
Need help with 9iii.

Crosses x-axis when y=0 and crosses y-axis when x=0

Crosses x-axis 4ysinp=12

y = 12/ 4sinp --> 3sinp

Crosses y-axis 3xcosp=12
x =12/3cosp =4cosp

Apparently it is 3/sinp and 4/cosp

Can someone explain why?



I think you need to re-learn division :smile:

12/(4sinp) = 3/sin p

and

12/(3cosp) = 4/cos p

:smile:
Reply 2
Original post by davros
I think you need to re-learn division :smile:

12/(4sinp) = 3/sin p

and

12/(3cosp) = 4/cos p

:smile:


Yeah I have just realised :tongue:
Reply 3
Original post by Super199
Need help with 9iii.

Crosses x-axis when y=0 and crosses y-axis when x=0

Crosses x-axis 4ysinp=12

y = 12/ 4sinp --> 3sinp

Crosses y-axis 3xcosp=12
x =12/3cosp =4cosp

Apparently it is 3/sinp and 4/cosp

Can someone explain why?


So when when the tangent crosses the x axis, y=0, which will give us 3xCosP=12

rearrange for x and we get x = 12/3(SecP) = 4SecP

Do the same to find the y intercept and we should get y = 3CosecP

Now if you draw oout a right angled triangel, you'll see that the base of the triangle (ie O to the x intercept) = 4SecP/

And the height is 3CosecP.

So the area will be 1/2 * 3/SinP * 4/CosP = 12/2SinPCosP

Now using the double angle formula for Sin2P it is then apparent that the area = 12/Sin2P.

In answer to your question, when you rearrange to find x and y, you're dividing 12, by 3CosP = 12/3CosP =4/CosP
(edited 8 years ago)
Reply 4
Original post by joe1545
So when when the tangent crosses the x axis, y=0, which will give us 3xCosP=12

rearrange for x and we get x = 12/3(SecP) = 4SecP

Do the same to find the y intercept and we should get y = 3CosecP

Now if you draw oout a right angled triangel, you'll see that the base of the triangle (ie O to the x intercept) = 4SecP/

And the height is 3CosecP.

So the area will be 1/2 * 3/SinP * 4/CosP = 12/2SinPCosP

Now using the double angle formula for Sin2P it is then apparent that the area = 12/Sin2P.

In answer to your question, when you rearrange to find x and y, you're dividing 12, by 3CosP = 12/3CosP =4/CosP


Yeah I have completed this question but thanks :smile:

Do you mind helping me with another question actually.

6ii. Parallel to y-axis the bottom is =0

2xy-3 = 0
xy =3/2 Care to explain how that shows no tangents are parallel to y-axis. Is it because xy cannot ever be equal to 3/2. Not entirely sure...C4 ....jpg
Original post by Super199
Yeah I have completed this question but thanks :smile:

Do you mind helping me with another question actually.

6ii. Parallel to y-axis the bottom is =0

2xy-3 = 0
xy =3/2 Care to explain how that shows no tangents are parallel to y-axis. Is it because xy cannot ever be equal to 3/2. Not entirely sure...C4 ....jpg


xy=32x=32yxy=\frac{3}{2} \Rightarrow x = \frac{3}{2y}

Use the equation of the curve...
Reply 6
Original post by Super199
Yeah I have completed this question but thanks :smile:

Do you mind helping me with another question actually.

6ii. Parallel to y-axis the bottom is =0

2xy-3 = 0
xy =3/2 Care to explain how that shows no tangents are parallel to y-axis. Is it because xy cannot ever be equal to 3/2. Not entirely sure...C4 ....jpg


Yeah, i'll work through it quickly now, although bare in mind, that when a tangent to a curve is parallel to the x axis, we say the dy/dx = 0. Hence in this case the numerator would be = 0

Although when a tangent is parralel to the y axis, we say y tends towards infinity for all values of x. T
This means that the denominator would have to be = 0.

Hence 2xy-3 = 0
Reply 7
Original post by lizard54142
xy=32x=32yxy=\frac{3}{2} \Rightarrow x = \frac{3}{2y}

Use the equation of the curve...


What am I supposed to see sorry? When I sub it in?
Reply 8
Original post by Super199
Yeah I have completed this question but thanks :smile:

Do you mind helping me with another question actually.

6ii. Parallel to y-axis the bottom is =0

2xy-3 = 0
xy =3/2 Care to explain how that shows no tangents are parallel to y-axis. Is it because xy cannot ever be equal to 3/2. Not entirely sure...C4 ....jpg


Im about to go and do a past paper now, but as said, rearrange for y, and sub back into the curve. You should then be able to get a quadratic equation which you can then see if there are any real roots too. If there are no real roots then you know there arent any tangents parrallel to the y axis.
Original post by Super199
What am I supposed to see sorry? When I sub it in?


Use the equation of the curve to find out whether there is any point which satisfies x=32yx=\frac{3}{2y}

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