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Math question of trig identities

l don't understand this question
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I assume it wants you to solve for B, what have you tried so far?

Also, is that -2sin(B) or -2sin(13) in the second bracket?
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Original post by 19680126
l don't understand this question
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Original post by Ira Acedia
I assume it wants you to solve for B, what have you tried so far?

Also, is that -2sin(B) or -2sin(13) in the second bracket?


I think it's meant to be an identity (and it is!) if we assume all the trig arguments are B (or beta), Expand both brackets and collect terms - there are some sin^2 and cos^2 terms which should add up to 13 and a couple of 'cross terms' with opposite signs which should cancel out :smile:

OP: post your working if still stuck :smile:
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Original post by Ira Acedia
I assume it wants you to solve for B, what have you tried so far?

Also, is that -2sin(B) or -2sin(13) in the second bracket?

-2sin(B)
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Original post by davros
I think it's meant to be an identity (and it is!) if we assume all the trig arguments are B (or beta), Expand both brackets and collect terms - there are some sin^2 and cos^2 terms which should add up to 13 and a couple of 'cross terms' with opposite signs which should cancel out :smile:

OP: post your working if still stuck :smile:


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l don't know what l should do now?
Note that you made an error in your second line, in the very last bracket, it should be 3cosB

this has a knock on effect on the other lines.

Once you finish fixing all the expansions, what identities can you spot being usable here?
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Original post by Ira Acedia
Note that you made an error in your second line, in the very last bracket, it should be 3cosB

this has a knock on effect on the other lines.

Once you finish fixing all the expansions, what identities can you spot being usable here?

ohh thank u
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so is this step right now?
(sorry my math is quite bad)
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how do u get to 13?
When you multiply the last 2 brackets next to each other, you get +9cosB and +4sinB. You should have +9cos^2B and +4sin^2B as you've done (3cosB)^2 and (4sinB)^2.

You seem to overall have an issue keeping track of the powers. Your line below that should read.

13cos^2(B) + 12cos(B)sin(B) + 13sin^2(B) - 12 cos(B)sin(B) = 13

This will further simplify to 13cos^2(B) + 13sin^2(B) = 13

I'm not sure what the question is asking from here on (i.e. did it just want this simplified form, or more? Because this equation is a multiplication of a very common identity, meaning it'll hold for all values of B).
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Original post by Ira Acedia
When you multiply the last 2 brackets next to each other, you get +9cosB and +4sinB. You should have +9cos^2B and +4sin^2B as you've done (3cosB)^2 and (4sinB)^2.

You seem to overall have an issue keeping track of the powers. Your line below that should read.

13cos^2(B) + 12cos(B)sin(B) + 13sin^2(B) - 12 cos(B)sin(B) = 13

This will further simplify to 13cos^2(B) + 13sin^2(B) = 13

I'm not sure what the question is asking from here on (i.e. did it just want this simplified form, or more? Because this equation is a multiplication of a very common identity, meaning it'll hold for all values of B).

Thank u so much l know where l have done wrong now!:smile:
Original post by Ira Acedia
When you multiply the last 2 brackets next to each other, you get +9cosB and +4sinB. You should have +9cos^2B and +4sin^2B as you've done (3cosB)^2 and (4sinB)^2.

You seem to overall have an issue keeping track of the powers. Your line below that should read.

13cos^2(B) + 12cos(B)sin(B) + 13sin^2(B) - 12 cos(B)sin(B) = 13

This will further simplify to 13cos^2(B) + 13sin^2(B) = 13

I'm not sure what the question is asking from here on (i.e. did it just want this simplified form, or more? Because this equation is a multiplication of a very common identity, meaning it'll hold for all values of B).

I assumed the question was "prove the following identity..." - it would have helped to have seen an image of the original as my biggest problem was deciphering the handwriting and working out what was a "B" and what was a "13" :smile:
Original post by 19680126
Thank u so much l know where l have done wrong now!:smile:

OP - are you familiar with simple binomials like (X+Y)2=X2+2XY+Y2(X+Y)^2 = X^2 + 2XY + Y^2 ?

When you see something like (2sinA+3cosA)2(2sinA + 3cosA)^2 you should be almost straightaway expecting the answer to involve 4sin2A4sin^2{A} and 9cos2A9cos^2{A}, the only tricky bit being to get the correct number in front of the "cross-term" i.e. the one involving sinAcosAsin{A}cos{A} :smile:

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