How hard is it to get jobs abroad? Don't want to stay in this **** country anymore!
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Original post by Denzel Hayes
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You´re right!. I´m degree and master degree in computer science -an engineering- , and, in this moment I can´t apply to any job cause there´s no job!. So, i´m trying to get a better handling of this language -english- while i´m going seeking for a job/scholarship/intership... whatever!.
And, it´s true that Uk has some of the highest wages in the world. Totally i agree. For example, here in Spain the medium wage is about 600 €/month
The weather in Uk, Ireland all the north countries is bad.
You´re right!. I´m degree and master degree in computer science -an engineering- , and, in this moment I can´t apply to any job cause there´s no job!. So, i´m trying to get a better handling of this language -english- while i´m going seeking for a job/scholarship/intership... whatever!.
And, it´s true that Uk has some of the highest wages in the world. Totally i agree. For example, here in Spain the medium wage is about 600 €/month
The weather in Uk, Ireland all the north countries is bad.
You can get double that amount as an unemployed person in Denmark.
Original post by effofex
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Surely not? I know most Northern Europeans are fluent in English, but isn't a bit much to expect employment without knowing the domestic language?
I say this because I'd love to work in Scandinavia/Northern European, but unless you're extremely experienced specialist professional, I don't see you'd land yourself a job over there without basic knowledge of linguistics.....
In Spain there´s a fever to learn a good english. So, if I was you, I would come to Spain and would seeking a job in english academies. When I would know a lot of young people who want to improve their english, I would leave that english academy and I would teach english at home of your potentials students!.
10€/hour a conversational class of english, for example. So, imagine that you have 6 students, 3 times per week= 6x3x10 = 180 € / week.
I think that you have possibilities here in Spain.
10€/hour a conversational class of english, for example. So, imagine that you have 6 students, 3 times per week= 6x3x10 = 180 € / week.
I think that you have possibilities here in Spain.
Original post by SensiDub
Surely not? I know most Northern Europeans are fluent in English, but isn't a bit much to expect employment without knowing the domestic language?
I say this because I'd love to work in Scandinavia/Northern European, but unless you're extremely experienced specialist professional, I don't see you'd land yourself a job over there without basic knowledge of linguistics.....
I say this because I'd love to work in Scandinavia/Northern European, but unless you're extremely experienced specialist professional, I don't see you'd land yourself a job over there without basic knowledge of linguistics.....
You will have to network quite a bit. But since there are no barriers to entry for an EU citizen (unlike with the other places I mentioned), I would say it is easier for the OP to be hired there than it is in Canada, the USA, India, Bangladesh, Australia, New Zealand, Oman, Qatar etc. given that all the latter countries have more restrictive immigration policies.
Original post by Denzel Hayes
10€/hour a conversational class of english, for example. So, imagine that you have 6 students, 3 times per week= 6x3x10 = 180 € / week.
I think that you have possibilities here in Spain.
10€/hour a conversational class of english, for example. So, imagine that you have 6 students, 3 times per week= 6x3x10 = 180 € / week.
I think that you have possibilities here in Spain.
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What makes you think going to another country where you have no human or social capital is gunna help you land a job?
Australia maybe? Great country, and really lucrative in some areas - I know a guy on my course who has an offer for mining in Perth that will pay the equivalent of £50 - 90k (depending on how many hours he works on site), and he only needed a telephone interview and the usual online stuff for the job!
The answer to the OP is it is pretty difficult as a fresh graduate unless you do a specific degree that has opportunities abroad. Things to do with engineering, earth sciences, nursing, etc open up doors abroad but in many other fields you would not be employable abroad straight after uni but with a few years experience you may be (eg financial professionals who do something like an accountancy or actuarial professional qualification here can find opportunities abroad when they qualify).
As has been pointed out, the UK employment market is quite good relatively speaking, despite the fact unemployment now is worse than it has been since the early 1990s here, we still have lower unemployment rates than a lot of other countries especially in Europe. Getting jobs in the EU is difficult even if you speak the language.
A lot of people on TSR have a romanticised idea of the global job market as being flexible where you can just apply for a job and get one and get granted a visa, but the immigration requirements outside the EU are tough and most fresh graduates with no experience are not going to get granted work visas abroad.
As has been pointed out, the UK employment market is quite good relatively speaking, despite the fact unemployment now is worse than it has been since the early 1990s here, we still have lower unemployment rates than a lot of other countries especially in Europe. Getting jobs in the EU is difficult even if you speak the language.
A lot of people on TSR have a romanticised idea of the global job market as being flexible where you can just apply for a job and get one and get granted a visa, but the immigration requirements outside the EU are tough and most fresh graduates with no experience are not going to get granted work visas abroad.
Original post by Peel
Australia maybe? Great country, and really lucrative in some areas - I know a guy on my course who has an offer for mining in Perth that will pay the equivalent of £50 - 90k (depending on how many hours he works on site), and he only needed a telephone interview and the usual online stuff for the job!
What course do you do - is it something engineering related...?
I knew a few engineering geologists that were getting job offers in Australia a couple of years back, on good money (as the aussie dollar is so strong when you convert it it comes out surprisingly high like you say above), although the flip side is most of these well paying ones are a bit in the middle of nowhere. I wonder if your mate will be "in Perth", or somewhere in the Western Aus where Perth is the nearest city (10 hours drive away lol). I'd still be up for doing it but it can be boring if the only people you ever see are the 10 male cranky outback hillbilly miners you work with and the occasional kangaroo for weeks on end.
UAE tax rate is 0% 
Over here literally everyone speaks english (admitably most of them speak it badly, but who am I to criticise as my arabic is rubbish. I can just about garble out a phrase, but even this get sa smile or a luagh from the locals who appreciate you learning it
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Plus Dubai is a service city there are hundreds of shops (i think the Dubai mall has close to 1200) etc... that hire people. Unfortuantely if you are not too bright you may end up with a terrible contract and end up in a bad situation (just look at the labor workers.
I got my job here via my company in the UK but I knwo quite a few agencies offer jobs here if you look around you may find something
Over here literally everyone speaks english (admitably most of them speak it badly, but who am I to criticise as my arabic is rubbish. I can just about garble out a phrase, but even this get sa smile or a luagh from the locals who appreciate you learning it
)Plus Dubai is a service city there are hundreds of shops (i think the Dubai mall has close to 1200) etc... that hire people. Unfortuantely if you are not too bright you may end up with a terrible contract and end up in a bad situation (just look at the labor workers.
I got my job here via my company in the UK but I knwo quite a few agencies offer jobs here if you look around you may find something
Original post by Sugar.And.Spice
Yeah, i only speak english.
I think i should just stick to this country now, and take my chances in the job market, hopefully i'll be able to find something, it's just all i ever hear from the newspapers/teachers/people i know who's graduated is that there's literally no jobs anywhere
I think i should just stick to this country now, and take my chances in the job market, hopefully i'll be able to find something, it's just all i ever hear from the newspapers/teachers/people i know who's graduated is that there's literally no jobs anywhere
Learn another language dude, or do a TEFOL course and teach somewhere
Original post by Sugar.And.Spice
it's just all i ever hear from the newspapers/teachers/people i know who's graduated is that there's literally no jobs anywhere
Do you think you're maybe exaggerating just a tad there? Unemployment isn't that high. It is very hard at the moment, but the majority of graduates are still able to find work, even if it's not in their exact field or a traditional 'graduate' job. I think people have slightly rose-tinted views of what the situation was like before the recession.
If you don't know any graduates who have got a job then you might want to widen your social circle a bit and meet some of those who have got jobs. Find out what they did!
Original post by Denzel Hayes
The weather in Uk, Ireland all the north countries is bad.
The weather in Uk, Ireland all the north countries is bad.
That's a matter of opinion, and a lot do with what you are used to. Lots of people from southern Europe say they don't like the weather here, but then I don't think I could cope with the summers in southern Europe.
Original post by Mbob
That's a matter of opinion, and a lot do with what you are used to. Lots of people from southern Europe say they don't like the weather here, but then I don't think I could cope with the summers in southern Europe.
Sure. It´s your oppinion. In fact, summers here are the best!. Now the weather is perfect here, so , you can imagine in summer.Original post by MagicNMedicine
What course do you do - is it something engineering related...?
I knew a few engineering geologists that were getting job offers in Australia a couple of years back, on good money (as the aussie dollar is so strong when you convert it it comes out surprisingly high like you say above), although the flip side is most of these well paying ones are a bit in the middle of nowhere. I wonder if your mate will be "in Perth", or somewhere in the Western Aus where Perth is the nearest city (10 hours drive away lol). I'd still be up for doing it but it can be boring if the only people you ever see are the 10 male cranky outback hillbilly miners you work with and the occasional kangaroo for weeks on end.
I knew a few engineering geologists that were getting job offers in Australia a couple of years back, on good money (as the aussie dollar is so strong when you convert it it comes out surprisingly high like you say above), although the flip side is most of these well paying ones are a bit in the middle of nowhere. I wonder if your mate will be "in Perth", or somewhere in the Western Aus where Perth is the nearest city (10 hours drive away lol). I'd still be up for doing it but it can be boring if the only people you ever see are the 10 male cranky outback hillbilly miners you work with and the occasional kangaroo for weeks on end.
Yes and yes
I do civil engineering, some of involves rocks, a lot of it involves soil, and supposedly we're a bit more practical than pure geologists.I think it'll be exactly as you described! But apparently if he does zero time on the mines he'll still get the equivalent of £50k, or if he does "a bit" then he'll get £70k... crazy wages!
Original post by Denzel Hayes Sure. It´s your oppinion. In fact, summers here are the best!. Now the weather is perfect here, so , you can imagine in summer.
Sure. It´s your oppinion. In fact, summers here are the best!. Now the weather is perfect here, so , you can imagine in summer.Where abouts in Spain are you?
Original post by MagicNMedicine
What course do you do - is it something engineering related...?
I knew a few engineering geologists that were getting job offers in Australia a couple of years back, on good money (as the aussie dollar is so strong when you convert it it comes out surprisingly high like you say above), although the flip side is most of these well paying ones are a bit in the middle of nowhere. I wonder if your mate will be "in Perth", or somewhere in the Western Aus where Perth is the nearest city (10 hours drive away lol). I'd still be up for doing it but it can be boring if the only people you ever see are the 10 male cranky outback hillbilly miners you work with and the occasional kangaroo for weeks on end.
I knew a few engineering geologists that were getting job offers in Australia a couple of years back, on good money (as the aussie dollar is so strong when you convert it it comes out surprisingly high like you say above), although the flip side is most of these well paying ones are a bit in the middle of nowhere. I wonder if your mate will be "in Perth", or somewhere in the Western Aus where Perth is the nearest city (10 hours drive away lol). I'd still be up for doing it but it can be boring if the only people you ever see are the 10 male cranky outback hillbilly miners you work with and the occasional kangaroo for weeks on end.
lol
well the thing is no matter where you are in Australia, unless you are working in a restaurant, bar etc that gives you no reason to travel outside the cities you'll be working in more rural areas (suburban at best)
I wouldn't worry too much about hillbilly miners though, I suspect the British and Irish are flooding them as we speak. I know a couple working in them now.
One thing is for sure, there are no shortage of jobs in western Australia as Gina Reinhart is aiming to create a hell of a lot of mining positions in the next few years.
Sorry you're having a hard time at the moment OP but there are jobs out there so it's either that you're not looking in the right places, being flexible enough or you haven't done any work/voluntary experience to back up your degree. It's not enough to just have a degree anymore, most people work part time or something at least during the summer.
The economy is really bad at the moment in the countries affected by the Euro...I trained as an English teacher during the summer and pretty much every Spanish person I met at the academy was an economic refugee. Does your uni hold any recruitment fairs? Have you looked for work just in your city or in others as well?
To be honest, you will struggle to find a job related to your chosen sector if you don't speak the language of the country. You might not need another language to teach English but to help the people you want to help i.e. people who are poor, this is one of the few sectors where you have to speak the language, even when these people are in the UK as refugees, they need interpreters because they are not normally the kind of people who speak English.
I wish you luck with your job search but I think moving abroad is not the solution to your problems.
The economy is really bad at the moment in the countries affected by the Euro...I trained as an English teacher during the summer and pretty much every Spanish person I met at the academy was an economic refugee. Does your uni hold any recruitment fairs? Have you looked for work just in your city or in others as well?
To be honest, you will struggle to find a job related to your chosen sector if you don't speak the language of the country. You might not need another language to teach English but to help the people you want to help i.e. people who are poor, this is one of the few sectors where you have to speak the language, even when these people are in the UK as refugees, they need interpreters because they are not normally the kind of people who speak English.
I wish you luck with your job search but I think moving abroad is not the solution to your problems.
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