Why is Wales and Scotland so much more patriotic than England?

Their patiotism is heightened because they don't have national autonomy, and remain part of Great Britain. They express their cultural solidarity in the form of patriotism.

Hey all,

I'm just wondering, I've noticed that, as a whole (obviously individuals have varying degrees of "patriotism" ) countries such as Wales and Scotland are so much more nationalistic and patriotic than England. I recently got back from Wales and you see Welsh flags, on dedicated flagpoles in people's houses - and all my welsh friends have "Cymru" stickers on their car windows and little welsh flag stickers etc.

I'm not saying patriotism is either good or bad, I'm just wondering what makes one country more "nationalistic" than another, especially considering our close geographic and cultural backgrounds.

Hey all,

I'm just wondering, I've noticed that, as a whole (obviously individuals have varying degrees of "patriotism" ) countries such as Wales and Scotland are so much more nationalistic and patriotic than England. I recently got back from Wales and you see Welsh flags, on dedicated flagpoles in people's houses - and all my welsh friends have "Cymru" stickers on their car windows and little welsh flag stickers etc.

I'm not saying patriotism is either good or bad, I'm just wondering what makes one country more "nationalistic" than another, especially considering our close geographic and cultural backgrounds.

Scotland was not joined to the English crown until 1707.

Welsh and Scottish people's sense of national identity has been increased due to their conflicts with England in the past. In the later medieval period Scotland gained an increased sense of national identity as a direct result of its people having a shared experience in confronting England.

Wales is a similar, but there is less desire for independence there as Wales and Welsh culture was generally more smoothly integrated into the Kingdom of England than was the case in Scotland. It was also subjected before it could develop a strong sense of nationhood (late 1200s) whereas Scotland was not joined to the English crown until 1707.

So the shared experience of being attacked by England lead to the development of a stronger sense of patriotism amongst the Welsh and Scots. This strength of feeling has carried through into modern times. England has never been in a similar situation; it has not been successfully invaded since 1066.

This is just one factor in the development of Welsh/Scottish national identity, but I think it is an important one.

Because if you like England, you're a racist nationalist who deserves to be shot.

Appreciating cultures such as Arab cultures or African countries, which are obviously much more sophisticated and equal than ours, however, is to be encouraged wherever possible.

this pretty much, you get people asked to take their flags down because they are "offending" minorities, pathetic.

Scotland didn't "join the English throne". They were united. Hence the United Kingdom. And it wasn't 1707 it was 100 years before that. 1707 was the joining of the countries. If your going to say something don't speak ****.