why is scotland, wales and NI getting advanced info for exams but england isnt

Why is Scotland, wales and northern Ireland getting advanced information but England students aren't? As cant students from all the other countries in the UK come to unis in England but they have an advantage since they have advanced information. Also, how is it fair if other students in the UK get help and some don't? I have heard that advanced information was no help but at least they would give some type of understanding of what to revise.

Reply 1

DataVenia

Volunteer Team, Clearing and Applications Advisor

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Original post by vesq

Why is Scotland, wales and northern Ireland getting advanced information but England students aren't? As cant students from all the other countries in the UK come to unis in England but they have an advantage since they have advanced information. Also, how is it fair if other students in the UK get help and some don't? I have heard that advanced information was no help but at least they would give some type of understanding of what to revise.

It's simply because those decisions have been devolved to the UK's constituent countries. A natural by-product of that is that there will be different rules across the UK. You could equally ask, "Why do English students have to pay about £9,250 a year in tuition fees at university, but Scottish students pay no tuition fees?" or, "Why do nurses in Scotland get paid more than nurses in England?" - are either of those anomalies "fair"?

Reply 2

gdunne42

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Original post by vesq

Why is Scotland, wales and northern Ireland getting advanced information but England students aren't? As cant students from all the other countries in the UK come to unis in England but they have an advantage since they have advanced information. Also, how is it fair if other students in the UK get help and some don't? I have heard that advanced information was no help but at least they would give some type of understanding of what to revise.

It's fair because all students taking the same exam do it under the same conditions. How well you do will only be compared to how well other people performed in those same exams when they work out the grade boundaries and decide how many marks are needed for a particular grade.

Reply 3

Shakira7

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Original post by gdunne42

It's fair because all students taking the same exam do it under the same conditions. How well you do will only be compared to how well other people performed in those same exams when they work out the grade boundaries and decide how many marks are needed for a particular grade.

It's absolutely not not fair because it's not the same conditions coz some students know others dont

Reply 4

gdunne42

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Original post by Shakira7

It's absolutely not not fair because it's not the same conditions coz some students know others dont

But the candidates fromWales and Northern Ireland who get advance information are not taking the same exams as the candidates in England. Nobody taking the same exams you are taking has an advantage over you. Your performance in those exams will only be compared with other candidates taking the same exam when they decide what grade you deserve.

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Reply 5

TypicalNerd

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Original post by Shakira7

It's absolutely not not fair because it's not the same conditions coz some students know others dont

Having sat exams last year with advance information given, I can promise you that you are missing nothing at all this year.

The advance information wasn’t really all that helpful and sometimes was misleading or worse still, just outright lied.

Considering how the grade boundaries are determined, they set it so a roughly constant proportion of people sitting one particular course get a particular grade- as gdunne42 says, you aren’t sitting the same exams as those in Scotland and Northern Ireland, so you won’t be grades against them and they also didn’t have the pleasure of having advance information last year.

(edited 11 months ago)

Reply 6

Roseforever

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As someone in Scotland. We are not getting advance information. Most covid changes weren’t removed these include some topics being removed or assignments being removed. Also this argument could have been used 10 years ago if 1 country lowered their grade boundaries and others didn’t

Reply 7

swanseajack1

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Original post by vesq

Why is Scotland, wales and northern Ireland getting advanced information but England students aren't? As cant students from all the other countries in the UK come to unis in England but they have an advantage since they have advanced information. Also, how is it fair if other students in the UK get help and some don't? I have heard that advanced information was no help but at least they would give some type of understanding of what to revise.

Universities throughout the world take students from other countries so there is no way of standardizing exams. For example Indian students take their countries exams which are totally different to the exams taken in the UK. Scottish students have a different system to A levels. The Welsh exams include the AS marks as part of the overall grades. Even in England there are different exam boards so is it fair that you should sit one whilst somebody else could be taking a harder exam.

Reply 8

vesq

OP

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Guys whats done is done. The first exams are in less than a week. Get revising lol

Reply 9

Kep134

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Original post by vesq

Why is Scotland, wales and northern Ireland getting advanced information but England students aren't? As cant students from all the other countries in the UK come to unis in England but they have an advantage since they have advanced information. Also, how is it fair if other students in the UK get help and some don't? I have heard that advanced information was no help but at least they would give some type of understanding of what to revise.