TSR MHoC General Election April 2011

We disagree with the rise in tuition fees, and are more social liberal then the IRL Lib Dems are (i.e. more on the centre-left of the political spectrum, rather than the centre).

Then why not use another name instead of lib dems? I do like some of their policies but
we all remember this
Some of think...

but your different?

I have no clue.

Any ideas?

We're in discussions about changing party names at the moment, which I will be helping follow up in the next Parliament (if I'm re-elected to be an MP).

We feel we're more representative of the Lib Dems in general (IRL), and parties on here are not compelled to share the same ideals as IRL parties, but we keep the name so people can identify with us.

We agree with a lot of Lib Dem policies though (raising the income tax threshold to live almost a million of the poorest people out of income tax altogether, and their environmental policies, and policies on civil liberties), so we are still in line behind the IRL Lib Dems on those (but on many issues, we disagree a fair amount with them).

So your not lib dem then?

I'm a card carrying member of the Liberal Democrats. I just disagree with some of the things they've done in Gov't.

I can't comment on the other members of the TSR party, as I don't know if they're members/supporters of the Lib Dems IRL, although I assume they are.

We are all still TSR Lib Dems though...

*EDIT*: Also, I know you were directed to the usergroups page (where you can join TSR parties), have you decided on a party yet?

Surely now you should be considering whether the Lib Dems would ever implement the policies you want, they've clearly shown that they're not the party you envisage if you're disagreeing with what they're doing in Government.

I'm really annoyed with the way Lib Dem and Tory politicians act together when on TV etc.. they constantly tow the coalition line and agree with each other.

You misunderstand me. Personally, I agree with the vast majority of what the Lib Dems are doing in Government. However, there are issues that I don't agree with them on. I don't agree with them on nuclear power (for example), and I completely disagree with the decision to vote for the rise in tuition fees (the Coalition agreement left scope for abstaining and still staying within the agreement, so it was bloody mad for Nick Clegg to whip in favour). That is not to say they're 'not the party I envisage'.

I think anyone who agrees entirely with everything the party they support does must be either 100% perfectly suited to that party (which I believe very, very few people are), or must be crazy. Leaderships change within parties, as does the general direction of the party in ideological terms over time. I have my own views, and when the majority of Lib Dem policy agrees with those views, I support the Lib Dems. My views continue to tally with Lib Dem policy better than any other party, therefore I continue to support them.

I appreciate your efforts to make me think of other viewpoints, but I do that regularly anyway, so you won't (at least for the moment) disenfranchise me away from supporting the Lib Dems IRL.

Fair enough, your opinion was well expressed in those words. ^

Surely now you should be considering whether the Lib Dems would ever implement the policies you want, they've clearly shown that they're not the party you envisage if you're disagreeing with what they're doing in Government.

I'm really annoyed with the way Lib Dem and Tory politicians act together when on TV etc.. they constantly tow the coalition line and agree with each other.

I have to agree somewhat on this, but I don't think Labour is perfect either when sometimes it is the opposite and just opposes for the sake of opposing.

I must admit that I agree a bit with this. I'm quite disappointed sometimes to see Ed et al seemingly opposing just because they think they should.

On another note, 1000 votes

Like my honourable friend, Wilzman, I think that almost everyone who completely agrees with everything that a party espouses has an allegiance, rather than an ideology or an opinion. Everyone has different take on certain issues, that's the beauty of the whole system, MPs question their own party's policy and a compromise is reached that, we hope, suits as many people as possible.

Obviously with whips et al. things aren't always as balmy as ^, I know, and some people will be left out / disgruntled.

I appreciate many of the RL Lib Dem achievements:



But wish that more was being done to scrap Trident, and utterly regret the whole tuition fees debacle. I also wish that something would be done about the DEB and Libel Law. That being said, I think that the TSR Liberal Democrats' manifesto concurs with the spirit of being a Liberal Democrat, and aspires to a lot, lot more than the RL Party can achieve as a junior coalition partner.

If you agree... Vote TSR Lib Dem!

I am very impressed with this turnout. Thanks to everyone that has voted.

On another note , Caroline Flint on Question Time last night is the best example of this. She look liked a madwoman at times.

I have to agree somewhat on this, but I don't think Labour is perfect either when sometimes it is the opposite and just opposes for the sake of opposing.

I am very impressed with this turnout. Thanks to everyone that has voted.

On another note , Caroline Flint on Question Time last night is the best example of this. She look liked a madwoman at times.