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WJEC AS Physics PH1 May 19th 2015

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Original post by sahank1
Thats what i wrote but what about current? Doesnt that also go down?


Hmm well the current of the overall circuit would increase, I can't fully remember the question but decreasing the resistance in the variable resistor would increase its share of the current. Without the numbers from the question I can't say whether the current in the other one goes up or down overall. I thought it only asked about pd not the current??
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Original post by sahank1
1. Horizontal v= 2
Vertical = 3.56
Magnitude = 4.1
Angle = 58
2.
3. Pd= 8.5
Pd = 3.75
Combined parallel resistance = 750
Variable resiator = 4500
Pd decreases
4. Experiment....
5.Inave?
6. Zip line..
7.Define displacement - mean velocity x time
Average speed = 48
Average velocity = 0
Thats all i can remember off the top of my head so pretty sure some of those are off


Hahaha you can't define displacement as velocity x time! That's basically saying that displacement is defined as displacement/time x time XD.
Since velocity is defined as displacement/time, it wouldn't make sense to define displacement in terms of velocity.
I don't think your pds are correct.
Your vertical was my resultant in question 1. Not sure if I made a mistake or you remembered wrong...
The other answers I agree with. :smile:
Original post by avengedabbie
I circled the one that was pointing south east? it was like a tangent to the curve since that was the direction I thought the air resistance was acting?


No it was when it was at the peak of its flight. The velocity in y direction was 0 so only moving in x direction at that moment! :smile:
Original post by PrimeLime
Hahaha you can't define displacement as velocity x time! That's basically saying that displacement is defined as displacement/time x time XD.
Since velocity is defined as displacement/time, it wouldn't make sense to define displacement in terms of velocity.
I don't think your pds are correct.
Your vertical was my resultant in question 1. Not sure if I made a mistake or you remembered wrong...
The other answers I agree with. :smile:


Yeah I think my resultant was his vertical as well!
Original post by avengedabbie
I circled the one that was pointing south east? it was like a tangent to the curve since that was the direction I thought the air resistance was acting?


No the tangent to the curve at that point would be pointing right (horizontally). So the air resistance would be pointing left.
Original post by Jonooo123
Hmm well the current of the overall circuit would increase, I can't fully remember the question but decreasing the resistance in the variable resistor would increase its share of the current. Without the numbers from the question I can't say whether the current in the other one goes up or down overall. I thought it only asked about pd not the voltage??


Oh dear. You didn't know that pd is the same thing as voltage? I hope you didn't say/use that in the exam...
Original post by Jonooo123
If you're on about the variable resistor question the voltage went down. Basically the R (parallel combo) of the R total went down so V(parallel combo) of the V total went down. The pd of the other resistor went up! Not sure if this explains it very well put if it had 3/4 of resistance it would dissipate 3/4 of pd. If resistance went down by 1 ohm it would have 2/3 of resistance so 2/3 of pd! :smile:

But if you change the resistance then that alters the current as well
I really want to make an unofficial mark scheme but I can't remember all of the questions! (I can remember about half, maybe more.) Does anyone have access to the paper?
Original post by Qwertykeyboard15
But if you change the resistance then that alters the current as well


You can take the circuit as a potential divider. Then since the resistance of the parallel combo goes down, the proportion of the emf that it gets decreases as well. Less pd in the combo means less pd across the 900 ohm resistor since pd is same in each branch. :smile:
Original post by thegayman
I said that the pd stays the same, I mentioned the change in I and R cancelling out, and also mentioned the fact that variable resistor and the resistor in parallel must have the same Pd as they're parallel, and if their of changes then the pd of the resistor in series also changes therefore would have to same the same as before


I'm fairly sure it went down, the pd in both the resistors of the parallel combo is the same so you could count it as one resistor that went down, then use potential divider equation and see that since it has a lower proportion of the total resistance it has a lower proportion of the overall voltage!
Original post by PrimeLime
You can take the circuit as a potential divider. Then since the resistance of the parallel combo goes down, the proportion of the emf that it gets decreases as well. Less pd in the combo means less pd across the 900 ohm resistor since pd is same in each branch. :smile:


Amen :wink:
Original post by PrimeLime
Oh dear. You didn't know that pd is the same thing as voltage? I hope you didn't say/use that in the exam...


Typo was meant to say current!!!!!!
On question one how did everyone work out the initial velocity in the vertical competent? from what I remember I halved the time and put the final velocity as 0 then 0^2= u + -9.81 x half of time and rearranged to get U
I think I've done this completely wrong and then on the value of U resultant vector I used Pythagoras
Original post by Qwertykeyboard15
On question one how did everyone work out the initial velocity in the vertical competent? from what I remember I halved the time and put the final velocity as 0 then 0^2= u + -9.81 x half of time and rearranged to get U
I think I've done this completely wrong and then on the value of U resultant vector I used Pythagoras


I did v^2=u^2 + 2 x -9.81 x s, v was zero so u^2= 2 x 9.81 x s then took square root!
Original post by Jonooo123
I did v^2=u^2 + 2 x -9.81 x s, v was zero so u^2= 2 x 9.81 x s then took square root!


Do you think I just used the wrong equation? My answer came out like 2.94 I think 😖 and then U was 3. Something
Original post by Jonooo123
Typo was meant to say current!!!!!!


I know XD.
Original post by Qwertykeyboard15
Do you think I just used the wrong equation? My answer came out like 2.94 I think 😖 and then U was 3. Something


2.94 is correct. I'm not sure what you mean by U though.
The wrong equation? I do want to make you aware that it is impossible to use the 'wrong equation'. As long as you have the numbers right, any equation will work. In fact, I think there were 3 different equations you could have used to get the answer. They do give you slightly different answers for unimportant reasons (if you really want to know why let me know), but they will all be correct.
Original post by Qwertykeyboard15
Do you think I just used the wrong equation? My answer came out like 2.94 I think 😖 and then U was 3. Something


Im pretty sure 2.94 is right, your method should have worked using v=u+at however it looks like you did v^2 which fortunately still comes out as 0, whether or not an examiner will mark you down for that I have no idea seeing as it didn't affect your answer!
Original post by Jonooo123
Im pretty sure 2.94 is right, your method should have worked using v=u+at however it looks like you did v^2 which fortunately still comes out as 0, whether or not an examiner will mark you down for that I have no idea seeing as it didn't affect your answer!


v^2=u^2+2ax still works, it's just that it's a more complicated way of doing it.
Original post by Jonooo123
Im pretty sure 2.94 is right, your method should have worked using v=u+at however it looks like you did v^2 which fortunately still comes out as 0, whether or not an examiner will mark you down for that I have no idea seeing as it didn't affect your answer!

Sorry wasn't meant to put the ^2, I didn't use that luckily 😂 did everyone else get the resultant vector as 3.56?
U is the letter they labelled the arrow on the diagram (I think)

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