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Original post by antigone-
Course: History & Politics or PPE (leaning towards History & Politics)
GCSE grades: 3 A*s, 10 As
AS-Levels: AAAA predicted for English Literature, Maths, Government & Politics and History
College: I'll probably make an open application :smile:


Oh why do you wanna do an open application? Everyone's saying it's not advised as you could be put anywhere and have no choice but if you do put down one college they can pass your application onto another one if they can't offer you a place, so at least you could have a shot at a preferred place?:redface:
Original post by RonnieRJ
Oh why do you wanna do an open application? Everyone's saying it's not advised as you could be put anywhere and have no choice but if you do put down one college they can pass your application onto another one if they can't offer you a place, so at least you could have a shot at a preferred place?:redface:


Well idm really, most colleges offer the courses I want to do and it's Oxford so all will be of good standard. I did love St John's when I saw it on the study day but I'll feel so limited if I only apply to one!

Also how could I possibly pick from the extensive range of colleges? They're all great and I don't have the time to look around every single one, and meticulously choose. It's just a hard decision :frown:

If I had to pick maybe Brasenose or St John's
Original post by Gerald DGrilla
Any Classicists here going up to the 2/7 open day?


I'm pretty sure my school has a trip down to Oxford and Cambridge covering that day and we were just told to write down the subject we were thinking of doing, in which I put Classics but I don't know what is happening, I just know we are going for an open day.
Original post by antigone-
Well idm really, most colleges offer the courses I want to do and it's Oxford so all will be of good standard. I did love St John's when I saw it on the study day but I'll feel so limited if I only apply to one!

Also how could I possibly pick from the extensive range of colleges? They're all great and I don't have the time to look around every single one, and meticulously choose. It's just a hard decision :frown:

If I had to pick maybe Brasenose or St John's


That's true, I see where you're coming from, that's the two I was looking at, and I've been to Brasenose its so nice! Although I still have a strong preference for St. John's it's amazing!
Original post by RonnieRJ
That's true, I see where you're coming from, that's the two I was looking at, and I've been to Brasenose its so nice! Although I still have a strong preference for St. John's it's amazing!


Brasenose is extraordinary - isn't it where David Cameron studied?
I went into Blair's room at St John's.. my two least favourite (living) politicians haha
Original post by antigone-
Brasenose is extraordinary - isn't it where David Cameron studied?
I went into Blair's room at St John's.. my two least favourite (living) politicians haha

Yeah I knew about Blair but not about Cameron haha! I'm surprised Blair was at St. John's after all, I'm pretty sure they value sports and etc and he doesn't seem much of an athlete haha:smile:
Original post by RonnieRJ
Oh why do you wanna do an open application? Everyone's saying it's not advised as you could be put anywhere and have no choice but if you do put down one college they can pass your application onto another one if they can't offer you a place, so at least you could have a shot at a preferred place?:redface:


Yes, that makes sense. And also remember, f you apply to an oversubscribed college be prepared you might be reallocated, even before interview. Nothing to do with quality of your application, just that they have too many candidates to interview.
Original post by personage
Yes, that makes sense. And also remember, f you apply to an oversubscribed college be prepared you might be reallocated, even before interview. Nothing to do with quality of your application, just that they have too many candidates to interview.


That's why I'm probably going to make an open application, I'm indifferent to which college I could get into and it's unlikely I'll get the one I applied for anyway.
I think the system has random elements to it. Reallocation and post- interview pooling happens to at least one third of candidates. For those with a burning passion for a certain college, it's worth applying to that college -- nothing to lose -- but otherwise perhaps an open application is a safe bet.
Original post by personage
I think the system has random elements to it. Reallocation and post- interview pooling happens to at least one third of candidates. For those with a burning passion for a certain college, it's worth applying to that college -- nothing to lose -- but otherwise perhaps an open application is a safe bet.


100% agree :smile:
Original post by Blue16
I'd love to go but not really sure if I'm even close (Seems to be about 1 or 2 people every five years get into Oxbridge from my school - but then very few actually apply).

Hey ho...

National 5's: 8 As (6 A1 and 2 A2)
Highers: Maths, English, Geography, History and Music
Advanced Highers: History, Geography and Modern Studies (as well as Higher RMPS)
Course: History
College: Balliol (though barely looked into this)


Hey! Finally someone else applying for History! And I'm looking at Balliol too, it's one of my top colleges :biggrin:

My info:
9A* 2A 1B at GCSE
Predicted AAAA at AS
Doing History, English Lit, Philosophy and Economics (planning to drop Econ)

I'm guessing you're in Scotland if your doing Highers?


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Original post by Oakflame
Hehe sorry for the super-late answer, but anyway.... Which day are you going? I am going to the 2nd :smile: Gonna stay overnight at Magdalen, and hopefully visit Lady Margaret, and some others during the day. Do you know if Keble (or Brasenose/Balliol) offer accommodation all three years?


Brasenose offers accommodation to undergraduates for all years of study - most courses last 3 years but some last 4 and a few even 5 years. The great majority of undergraduates take up this offer and stay in College rooms.
Original post by antigone-
That's why I'm probably going to make an open application, I'm indifferent to which college I could get into and it's unlikely I'll get the one I applied for anyway.


Open Applications are fine and nobody making one will be disadvantaged in the sense of having to reach a different standard to gain a place. Most UK applicants though elect to make a direct application , particularly if they have been able to visit Oxford on an Open Day or similar. As stated by others on this forum, around a quarter of students making a direct application and gaining a place receive an offer from a different college - but by the same token around three-quarters receive the offer from their first choice college. Overseas candidates are generally more likely to make an Open Application - a key reason being that they are also less likely to attend an Open Day prior to applying.
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Original post by BrasenoseAdm
Open Applications are fine and nobody making an one will be disadvantaged in the sense of having to reach a different standard to gain a place. Most UK applicants though elect to make a direct application , particularly if they have been able to visit Oxford on an Open Day or similar. As stated by others on this forum, around a quarter of students making a direct application and gaining a place receive an offer from a different college - but by the same token around three-quarters receive the offer from their first choice college. Overseas candidates are generally more likely to make an Open Application - a key reason being that they are also less likely to attend an Open Day prior to applying.


That's interesting, thank you! I have looked around the colleges and they're all great, I'm indifferent. That's the main motivation behind making an open application for me personally
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Original post by lifescomplexity
Hey! Finally someone else applying for History! And I'm looking at Balliol too, it's one of my top colleges :biggrin:

My info:
9A* 2A 1B at GCSE
Predicted AAAA at AS
Doing History, English Lit, Philosophy and Economics (planning to drop Econ)

I'm guessing you're in Scotland if your doing Highers?


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Yep, Scottish (just finished my Highers last week)! I assume the English exams have started? (that exam season inevitable - I have no idea what's happening in the outside world; including England).

Good luck with your AS levels! Judging by your GSCE's and predicted grades I'm sure you'll do fine!
Original post by antigone-
That's why I'm probably going to make an open application, I'm indifferent to which college I could get into and it's unlikely I'll get the one I applied for anyway.


I tend to advise people against making open applications. Reason really is you put yourself completely at mercy of being sent to a College/PPH you may absolutely despise. You may not have even been aware of said College/PPH when you applied, assuming they were all broadly the same. They aren't. I had a friend who ended up at Mansfield (which gets the vast majority of its applicants via open applications/people being shifted College) which is a very small College, which they found very difficult to deal with.

You may of course still find yourself moved, but your odds of ending up somewhere you'd definitely not like are much less if you pick a College you are to all extents and purposes content with. Even if you pick the College because it didn't excite you either way on the open day, it's better than potentially ending up at a Catholic PPH hanging around with monks when you'd rather be anywhere else.
That sounds great.
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Great
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Original post by jenkinsear
I tend to advise people against making open applications. Reason really is you put yourself completely at mercy of being sent to a College/PPH you may absolutely despise. You may not have even been aware of said College/PPH when you applied, assuming they were all broadly the same. They aren't. I had a friend who ended up at Mansfield (which gets the vast majority of its applicants via open applications/people being shifted College) which is a very small College, which they found very difficult to deal with.

You may of course still find yourself moved, but your odds of ending up somewhere you'd definitely not like are much less if you pick a College you are to all extents and purposes content with. Even if you pick the College because it didn't excite you either way on the open day, it's better than potentially ending up at a Catholic PPH hanging around with monks when you'd rather be anywhere else.


Hmm I'm still not sure. I've been to St Johns and Brasenose and loved them, but from researching the other colleges I really don't mind. I guess I'll have to look more after exams and see. Thanks for the advice!
Original post by jenkinsear
I tend to advise people against making open applications. Reason really is you put yourself completely at mercy of being sent to a College/PPH you may absolutely despise. You may not have even been aware of said College/PPH when you applied, assuming they were all broadly the same. They aren't. I had a friend who ended up at Mansfield (which gets the vast majority of its applicants via open applications/people being shifted College) which is a very small College, which they found very difficult to deal with.

You may of course still find yourself moved, but your odds of ending up somewhere you'd definitely not like are much less if you pick a College you are to all extents and purposes content with. Even if you pick the College because it didn't excite you either way on the open day, it's better than potentially ending up at a Catholic PPH hanging around with monks when you'd rather be anywhere else.



Blackfriars, St Stephen’s House and Wycliffe Hall admit only mature students for Theology and in consequence 99% of applicants will not be reallocated to these specialised Permanent Private Halls.

Regents Park College and St Benet's Hall are smaller than the other colleges and also admit for fewer subjects. Those subjects that are offered, however, are taught in exactly the same way as elsewhere. St Benet's is now mixed (co-ed). Anecdotally, I think both offer very good student experiences and the atmosphere seems relatively informal - if anyone on TSR is a member of either institution, perhaps they could comment further?

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