Because everyone in the working class is like that ^
Too many wannabe intellectuals on this site I swear
I said "many" to qualify my statements. Nothing intellectual about it, if you go out and see their natural habitat then you will know... I am from the the north, it's in plain sight everywhere.
So we head to a situ of borderless class owners and the slaves-+? im doing well and my parent got rich through the accident of owning property but i would love to tear such a system down and im very right wing
watch the old German film ''Metropolis''
I don't see anything wrong with maintaining the status quo.
**** the middle class, I never got on with them. All they do is live off their trust fund and waste it on horse-riding and clay-pidgeon shooting
Middle class and working class are pretty difficult to define groups in the UK, many of them could be placed in either class. I don't think many middle class people have trust funds in that sense.
The entire democratic system breaks down here and speaking as someone who's instincts are very much right-wing, Corbyrn is a breath of fresh air in at least trying to give working class people what they want
Corbyn may well be a guard against big business and the erosion of social protection, but I don't think he's going to ally your fears over immigration. He's certainly pro immigration on the scale we've seen in recent years, and certainly has no time for anti-Islamic positions.
I said "many" to qualify my statements. Nothing intellectual about it, if you go out and see their natural habitat then you will know... I am from the the north, it's in plain sight everywhere.
Your first few words were "**** working class people, never got along with them". I don't need to go out and see anyone's habitat because I have predominantly been working class my entire life, as have quite a few others on this site, or even from the FF. Not that I reject what you've said, it does exist, but I just don't accept such a generalization, and I won't ever accept it from someone who I assume is middle/upper class.
Shot wasn't just directed to you but actually most of the forum. Sick of so many 17-19 year olds on this site talking like they've experienced the world and know everything in and out. It's why I don't venture out of the FF.
Middle class and working class are pretty difficult to define groups in the UK, many of them could be placed in either class. I don't think many middle class people have trust funds in that sense..
Yeah I was taking the piss. Only an idiot would actually say something like that. (see: tom gotze)
Middle class and working class are pretty difficult to define groups in the UK, many of them could be placed in either class. I don't think many middle class people have trust funds in that sense.
Corbyn may well be a guard against big business and the erosion of social protection, but I don't think he's going to ally your fears over immigration. He's certainly pro immigration on the scale we've seen in recent years, and certainly has no time for anti-Islamic positions.
Believe me, our entire democratic/media class have marched down the road of this national disaster. too late.
Corbyrn will never be elected so can ignore his pathological self-hatred and focus on the abstract. his economics will make more and more sense as capital is less distributed
I have predominantly been working class my entire life, as have quite a few others on this site, or even from the FF.
I think the vast majority of the country as working class. 7% of school are fee paying for example, and many of the traditional markers of class foreign holidays, university education and such are poor indicators in today's society. For a large number of people being working class or middle class is a persona distinction. I have acquaintances who are painfully middle class yet insist they are working class, and the reverse. For most people the distinction in a political sense is little more than present circumstance, often which changes with fortune between generations. Foolish for many of the middle class to act like they are mile away from the working classes.
Tbh **** working class people. Never got along with them - I hate the notion of a working class romantic ideal. What many of them want is an easy socialist life, where they can sit on their arse and get fed. Yet they get characterized as great victims... Fair enough you work... but what if you sat down and pushed three kids out for the previous 3-4 years at state expense? Too much political correctness which means you can't just say "You're a liberty taking ****".
Everything is abstract unless you go and see if for yourself.
There's definitely a huge entitlement complex amongst the working class that needs to be eradicated.
I am a totally sympathetic to Thatcherite views but around these parts you get shot down for these beliefs. I am not an intellectual, I just see that the majority of them I have come across fit into my description.
Your first few words were "**** working class people, never got along with them". I don't need to go out and see anyone's habitat because I have predominantly been working class my entire life, as have quite a few others on this site, or even from the FF. Not that I reject what you've said, it does exist, but I just don't accept such a generalization, and I won't ever accept it from someone who I assume is middle/upper class.
Shot wasn't just directed to you but actually most of the forum. Sick of so many 17-19 year olds on this site talking like they've experienced the world and know everything in and out. It's why I don't venture out of the FF.
Yeah, ok, I would categorise the people I am referring to more as a large underclass rather than working class. Unfortunate that the underclass often get lumped into the working class narrative really.
I am a totally sympathetic to Thatcherite views but around these parts you get shot down for these beliefs. I am not an intellectual, I just see that the majority of them I have come across fit into my description.
Likewise. One person I went to uni with is very working class and I'm pretty sure they're unintentionally committing benefit fraud at the moment. Begging them to stop but they won't listen...
Agree with you on the "underclass" comment. Sounds very snobbish but it's definitely true, you do get some genuine working class people who do their best for their families which is nice