Hello, it's ADELE.

Did you miss the part where 25 is 42% of the total sales of the week?

This is called 'standing out'. Music is subjective so there's little point arguing over that front. But you're clearly wrong - if it's exactly the same as a million other albums, why aren't they selling a fraction of what 25 is selling in a minute?

I'm saying their's a clear preference of music from general public for buying generic, formulaic music. I know what your saying, Adele's percentage's are a significantly higher than the second highest selling album, and that obviously means she must have attracted a wider audience outside of people who buy Taylor Swift and Backstreet Boys albums. But the kind of music Adele makes has been done a million times before and isn't original in any way, and is therefore formulaic because it just takes all of it's ideas from other artists.

The fact that you're all justifying your idolisation of Adele on the sole basis of her sales volume is quite amusing; since when has popularity ever been a reliable indicator of talent?

Amusing because I'm someone who clearly realises that music is subjective and only objective facts can be properly discussed? I already have 'justified my idolisation' based on something other than sales - it's not my fault you clearly either lack the ability to or couldn't be bothered to read. There's nothing to be discussed outside of sales - emotions, vocals, musical values are all subjective.

The matter of fact is music is subjective and what is 'good' or 'bad' music is decided essentially by the masses. The Beatles wouldn't be considered 'good' without the sales. Whether 25 will be considered good after a decade is to be seen since we have no idea if the album will be legs or if it will last at all, but that was never something that I was talking about.

But this is totally a strawman's argument as I have explained before - exactly where and when did I say popularity is an indicator of talent?

Yet you still have yet to address the question - if her music is the same as the other million ones, why is she the only one who sells? How is it possible for 100 albums to be the same but only 1 of them sells?

And BTW, there's absolutely nothing that is 'original'. The human mind cannot create something without combining things of the past.


Amusing because I'm someone who clearly realises that music is subjective and only objective facts can be properly discussed? I already have 'justified my idolisation' based on something other than sales - it's not my fault you clearly either lack the ability to or couldn't be bothered to read. There's nothing to be discussed outside of sales - emotions, vocals, musical values are all subjective.

The matter of fact is music is subjective and what is 'good' or 'bad' music is decided essentially by the masses. The Beatles wouldn't be considered 'good' without the sales. Whether 25 will be considered good after a decade is to be seen since we have no idea if the album will be legs or if it will last at all, but that was never something that I was talking about.

But this is totally a strawman's argument as I have explained before - exactly where and when did I say popularity is an indicator of talent?

I have addressed the question, luck and marketing, there's an Adele billboard outside my apartment for Christ sake.

Obviously nothing can be completely original, but it can transcend it's influences, something bands like The Velvet Underground, Queen, The Stooges and The Smiths did...

You are completely deluded if you think the masses decide on what constitutes 'good' and 'bad' music.

Obviously I believe in objectivity but you can't actually be saying that due to her sales, Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga's music is better than that of brilliant and massively influential but low selling bands such as Big Star, The Replacement's and The Pixies. Brian Eno famously said of the Velvet Underground and Nico despite it selling just 30,000 copies, 'everyone who bought one of those 30,000 copies started a band'.

Pop music is simply a watered down, less imaginative copy of what musical geniuses like The Beatles conceived. Most people don't care which is fair enough because it isn't an interest of their's, but that doesn't make the generic watered down pop songs of Taylor Swift and One Direction better.

25 is amazing, it's her best album yet but now it is obvious that this is her peak. She will never be able to top Hello or Million Years Ago, its her best work. Plus the astronomical sales, there is no way she will ever be able to outsell herself after this album. Kind of like Lady Gaga and the Fame Monster album... ok I am being negative now but yeah.

Adele is amazing. I actually teared up the first time I listened to Million Years Ago and that never happens to me.

In the US, she's passed 4 million copies after just 10 days, with another 650k+ sold through the weekend. Second week projected to be a million - biggest second-week ever and will be the first album ever to move more than a million copies for two weeks.

Gold in Italy - 25-49k
25k in Norway

Do you think it will suffer a huge drop for the 2nd and 3rd week (in the US)?

Musically, what's your favourite 19, 21 or 25?
Which has the best (and the worst) album cover?

Second, no. Her second week includes Black Friday (last Friday) and Cyber Monday, and she's already sold 650k after three days, before Cyber Monday.

Third week will probably see a harsh drop by third-week standards,probably dropping to 300-400k copies the lowest, which will still get her blocking Coldplay from going No 1. Sales will pick up for two weeks from there when promotions kick in and Christmas approaches.

19: 'Cold Shoulders', 'Chasing Pavement', 'Make You Feel My Love'
21: 'Rolling In The Deep', 'Rumour Has It', 'Someone Like You', 'Set Fire To The Rain', 'I'll Be Waiting', 'Don't You Remember'
25: 'When We Were Young', 'Send My Love (To Your New Lover)', 'Hello', 'River Lea', 'Water Under The Bridge', 'Sweetest Devotion', 'Million Years Ago', 'All I Ask'

It seems you like 25 more
(what I meant by album cover is the printed cover of the album itself)