Swiss win EU case - Muslim girls must swim with boys

And our "rules" support freedom of religion. It could be argued that this infringes on that principle.

That argument was made and debated by the Swiss judges (which you'd know if you'd read the ruling instead of making comments from a position of ignorance).

The ECHR said that it amounted to an “interference [read: not a violation] with religious freedom” but that it was justified by the need to maintain “social integration and cohesion”. Which seems perfectly sensible to me.

It also works the other way around. As soon a someone dares to criticise the doctrine of Islam. Theyre called a racist or islamophobic. No matter if it actaully racist or not. Criticising Islam as a docterine isnt racist as a set of believes isnt a race.

I really don't understand why A) Swimming Lessons are mandatory in the first place, and B) Why they have to swim with boys.

People shouldn't do that that's not right, having opinions on a religion isn't a bad thing as long as people don't generalise groups of people I don't have a problem with it.

I can help you with those questions:

(a) Teaching all children to swim is essential for any sensible country as it (i) saves lives; (ii) facilitates outlets for healthy recreation and non-impact exercise; (iii) provides a base for recruitment to some careers.

(b) Boys and girls learn together because (i) swimming pools are expensive and getting sufficient time for two classes is not always either possible or cost-effective; (ii) it causes less disruption to the rest of the timetable; (iii) it helps to foster familiarity between the sexes and a cohesive society comfortable with local mores.

So the UK isn't a sensible country then? I wasn't taught to swim at school, but I can still do it.

People shouldn't do that that's not right, having opinions on a religion isn't a bad thing as long as people don't generalise groups of people I don't have a problem with it.

So the UK isn't a sensible country then? I wasn't taught to swim at school, but I can still do it.

special treatment pfft, muslims aren't even treated like humans in your intolerant society

special treatment pfft, muslims aren't even treated like humans in your intolerant society

Will try saying this in the nicest possible way but that comment is a disgrace to the Christians/Yazidis/non Muslims/Ahmadis that are treated horrifically in Muslim countries. They aren't given protection of the law or freedom like Muslims like you have over here.

We should stop giving them reason to hate us by banning their practices and clothing. It's only going to make things worse.

This is true. Christians are treated like animals in much of the Middle East today. In Saudi Arabia, Christians aren't even allowed to have Bibles or churches or even pray in public. In many other Muslim countries, Christians can easily be prosecuted or killed if declared apostates from Islam. There's a huge difference between this and Muslims having to share a swimming pool with the opposite gender.

Honestly, this is a real insult to Swiss people and Western society in general. Muslims, on the whole, are treated very well, like the majority of people living in Western nations. They live under the same law and are able to take advantage of the great opportunities available in the Western world, just like anyone else, and they do- there are millions of Muslims happily living the Westenr world with no problems.

To say that Muslims aren't currently treated as humans is a highly offensive to the millions of people who have been treated like sub-humans in the past and present- e.g. black slaves in America, non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia, the Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar and women in 12th century England. They suffered far worse than Muslims suffer in 21st century Switzerland. There is a huge difference.