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Uk may use taxes on tech giants to prevent Terrorism.

According to London Reuters " Britain may impose new taxes on tech giants like Google and Facebook unless they do more to combat online extremism by taking down material aimed at radicalising people or helping them to prepare attacks, the country’s security minister said."

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-security-tech/uk-may-use-taxes-to-get-tech-giants-to-do-more-to-fight-extremism-minister-says-idUKKBN1EP08N

What do you guys think do you support the move or is it too harsh?
Is the government doing enough to prevent terrorism?
Reply 1
Its a ridiculously stupid policy. Aside from it being physically impossible to keep all objectionable material off of the web and playing catch up to it will always be just that the idea that the state has a monopoly on what they deem to be 'terrorist material' is the thin end of the wedge imo.
This is leaving aside the much bigger issue that this will do not one iota to stop lone wolf style attacks.
I find it incredible how things have changed in the last 20 years. To think of the stink that happened when Windows XP was shipped with Internet Explorer. The world couldn't bash Microsoft hard enough with EU and US law courts firing at Microsoft with both barrels. And now we have the likes of Facebook and Google that are multiples of times bigger than Microsoft both in monetary value and social influence and we are threatening to tax them a bit if they don't do something. It is all rather woeful.1
Original post by Napp
Its a ridiculously stupid policy. Aside from it being physically impossible to keep all objectionable material off of the web and playing catch up to it will always be just that the idea that the state has a monopoly on what they deem to be 'terrorist material' is the thin end of the wedge imo.
This is leaving aside the much bigger issue that this will do not one iota to stop lone wolf style attacks.


But surely the Tech Giants like Facebook aren't doing enough to stop the terrorist recruitment material that is out there. There have been reports of quite plain simple IS videos that had been flagged multiple times and they had failed to be taken down. I support this move and it should be spread to apps like Instagram and Twitter.
Reply 4
Original post by ThEpOLiTiCaLgUy
But surely the Tech Giants like Facebook aren't doing enough to stop the terrorist recruitment material that is out there. There have been reports of quite plain simple IS videos that had been flagged multiple times and they had failed to be taken down. I support this move and it should be spread to apps like Instagram and Twitter.


If someone wants to view radical material this token move really isnt going to stop them though. Not to mention the logistics of it make it completely impractical.
My main objection though is the slippery slope it represents with respect to freedom of speech.
Original post by Napp
If someone wants to view radical material this token move really isnt going to stop them though. Not to mention the logistics of it make it completely impractical.
My main objection though is the slippery slope it represents with respect to freedom of speech.


"A slippery slope with respect to freedom of speech"

It's already illegal to incite and support a banned terrorist organisation this new tax is not going to affect free speech just merely stopping the spread of radical extremism and if you think this will not help prevent radical material being widely available then you are mistaken a new study by National Radicalisation Research shows " 70% of people who are radicalised are from the internet" most posts take around hours to be taken off this measure will most likely force Social media sites to take them off instantly.
Reply 6
Original post by ThEpOLiTiCaLgUy
"A slippery slope with respect to freedom of speech"

It's already illegal to incite and support a banned terrorist organisation this new tax is not going to affect free speech just merely stopping the spread of radical extremism and if you think this will not help prevent radical material being widely available then you are mistaken a new study by National Radicalisation Research shows " 70% of people who are radicalised are from the internet" most posts take around hours to be taken off this measure will most likely force Social media sites to take them off instantly.

Inciting terror is in no way the same as possessing an objectionable document.
Terrorism is as old as time itself, the idea this will have any meaningful impact is a complete farce by the government. You can't kill an idea.
Well of course theyre from the internet but aside from FB not being the internet I can assure you it is and always will be very easy to find this stuff online. Indeed AQAPs magazine is widely distributed and a basic google search will bring it up on perfectly respectable sites.
Well how will they do that? To actually look at every post would take a huge amount of man power and to simply start auto deleting based on words will likely catch plenty of perfectly innocent content in the sweep.
Edit: Sorry, wrong thread
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by ThEpOLiTiCaLgUy
According to London Reuters " Britain may impose new taxes on tech giants like Google and Facebook unless they do more to combat online extremism by taking down material aimed at radicalising people or helping them to prepare attacks, the country’s security minister said."

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-security-tech/uk-may-use-taxes-to-get-tech-giants-to-do-more-to-fight-extremism-minister-says-idUKKBN1EP08N

What do you guys think do you support the move or is it too harsh?
Is the government doing enough to prevent terrorism?


The government is responsible for faking terrorism, using the controlled media, crisis actors and the emergency services. There is always a drill going on more or less in the same time and place as a so-called 'real' terrorism event.
Original post by FriendlyPenguin
Edit: as Napp said before me:

Tech giants aren't going to look closely at each post and determine which to remove fairly. That would be incredibly expensive. Far cheaper to do blanket removals.

Many people with views outside the norm will be caught up in this censorship, whether or not they promote violence. And it would be a great opportunity to slip in a few people the tech giants themselves don't like.


Not to mention that a lot of "terrorist videos" are of combat footage. Most footage we get of the fighting in Syria is posted by the groups themselves. The unofficial Al Qaeda affiliate in Syria put out a lot of combat footage from major offensives. These videos are vital for documenting the war and providing what will be a future historical resource, but could very very easily end up being censored with things like this.

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