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I dont understand how to do question 9(a)16006770637104155505689396232828.jpg

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Reply 1
Original post by Shas72
I dont understand how to do question 9(a)16006770637104155505689396232828.jpg

What do you understand?
Its a relatively simple area question with a bit of working required on the radius of the sector?

If you work back from the answer, can you spot any structure?
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Reply 2
Original post by mqb2766
What do you understand?
Its a relatively simple area question with a bit of working required on the radius of the sector?

If you work back from the answer, can you spot any structure?

Is it that i have to calculate the area of triangle ABC?
Reply 3
Original post by Shas72
Is it that i have to calculate the area of triangle ABC?

You could do but you'd have to do the additional segment as well. Isn't the sector easier?
Try and write down some equations and upload when you get stuck.

Did you try working backwards?
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Reply 4
Original post by mqb2766
You could do but you'd have to do the additional segment as well. Isn't the sector easier?
Try and write down some equations and upload when you get stuck.

Did you try working backwards?

So I did area of shaded region= area of circle - area of sector abc.
Area of shaded region = 3/8× area of circle
Reply 5
Original post by mqb2766
You could do but you'd have to do the additional segment as well. Isn't the sector easier?
Try and write down some equations and upload when you get stuck.

Did you try working backwards?

Area of sec acb = 1/2 r^2× 2 theta
Reply 6
Original post by Shas72
So I did area of shaded region= area of circle - area of sector abc.
Area of shaded region = 3/8× area of circle


isn't the shaded region the sector?
What variables, formulae, ..
Did you try working backwards...
Reply 7
Original post by Shas72
Area of sec acb = 1/2 r^2× 2 theta

That radius is not r
Reply 8
Original post by mqb2766
isn't the shaded region the sector?
What variables, formulae, ..
Did you try working backwards...

You mean I use the expression theta=cos^-1sqroot

Original post by mqb2766
That radius is not r

oh yeah right
Reply 9
Original post by mqb2766
That radius is not r


Original post by mqb2766
isn't the shaded region the sector?
What variables, formulae, ..
Did you try working backwards...

You mean i use the expression given in question a and work out backwards?
Original post by Shas72
You mean I use the expression theta=cos^-1sqroot

oh yeah right

A couple of things
* Step away from the reply button for a time and draw/think about the problem
* Work back from the answer, can you get an "area = 3/8 area" type expression. Does that give you any hints?
* Draw 0A and/or OB on your diagram. How does that help you relate the radii.

Upload your thoughts/working after a bit of thinking. There is nothing beyond a hard gcse question here. Working backwards from the desired expression can, in some cases, give you hints about how the analysis is done.
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Reply 11
Original post by mqb2766
A couple of things
* Step away from the reply button for a time and draw/think about the problem
* Work back from the answer, can you get an "area = 3/8 area" type expression. Does that give you any hints?
* Draw 0A and/or OB on your diagram. How does that help you relate the radii.

Upload your thoughts/working after a bit of thinking. There is nothing beyond a hard gcse question here. Working backwards from the desired expression can, in some cases, give you hints about how the analysis is done.

Ok sure. I will try. OA and OB = r
Reply 12
Original post by mqb2766
A couple of things
* Step away from the reply button for a time and draw/think about the problem
* Work back from the answer, can you get an "area = 3/8 area" type expression. Does that give you any hints?
* Draw 0A and/or OB on your diagram. How does that help you relate the radii.

Upload your thoughts/working after a bit of thinking. There is nothing beyond a hard gcse question here. Working backwards from the desired expression can, in some cases, give you hints about how the analysis is done.

Iam not understanding how to approach this question. Can you pls explain in a simpler way if possible?
Original post by Shas72
Iam not understanding how to approach this question. Can you pls explain in a simpler way if possible?

What picture have you drawn? What equations are you using for the area of the circle / sector. Working backwards steps would be appreciated. Can you p!s upload what you've done.
Please give me something to work with.
Original post by Shas72
Iam not understanding how to approach this question. Can you pls explain in a simpler way if possible?

So, I assume you're happy that if we knew the radius R of the sector, then the area of the shaded region would be R^2 theta?

So what you really need to do at this point is find out what R is. This is basically GCSE geometry, but it seems to be something a lot of A-level students struggle with.

You know two sides of the triangle AOC = r. So, that triangle is isoceles. Does that help?

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Reply 15
Original post by mqb2766
What picture have you drawn? What equations are you using for the area of the circle / sector. Working backwards steps would be appreciated. Can you p!s upload what you've done.
Please give me something to work wit


Original post by DFranklin
So, I assume you're happy that if we knew the radius R of the sector, then the area of the shaded region would be R^2 theta?

So what you really need to do at this point is find out what R is. This is basically GCSE geometry, but it seems to be something a lot of A-level students struggle with.

You know two sides of the triangle AOC = r. So, that triangle is isoceles. Does that help?

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so Ac = sqroot(2) ×r
Original post by Shas72
so Ac = sqroot(2) ×r

Why (and no)?
Reply 17
Original post by mqb2766
Why (and no)?

Since oc is perpendicular to oa and ob
Original post by Shas72
Since oc is perpendicular to oa and ob

Where does it say that in the question?
Reply 19
Original post by mqb2766
Where does it say that in the question?

Yeah it doesn't say that.

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