England Vs The Rest of Great Britain

Don't make welsh compulsory, MAKE A LANGUAGE COMPULSARY like spanish.
But the problem isnot everyone is good at languages like they see you either have it or you don't, and I don't so I am being disadvantaged.

And welsh isn't? No offence but native english speakers,whether english or welsh, find it hard. Also while I agree welsh is mor ecommon in the north than the south I have to point out that people like my ex-french teacher who spoke welsh first are very very very rare. Also English is closer to other labhuages than welsh, nobody really learns it outside of wales.

Oh and surely its far more important to learn a Latin based language like french or spanish (2 dominant language in the world) or an asiatic, or middle eastern language.

I am increasingly finding (go to your Tesco at Upper-Boat, look at what the sign above the door says) that signage is in Welsh with smaller translation for the unwashed (let's face it, in SE Wales, there's a definite class division in Welsh speaking).

Devolution has just been a gravy train in Wales.

Don't get me started on Welsh language schools. Just don't.

Well it may be true that Welsh is a minority language but it has been latinised. Ironically my french teacher was also first-language welsh but that's neither here nor there. I don't see what the problem is making a language compulsory in Wales when in England languages cease to be compulsory at the age of 14. Studies prove that children who learn more than one language at an early age are more intellectually flexible than those who do not. In that regard Wales is more like our European counterparts than England is.

Yes but make Spanish compulsory then - the 2nd most spoken language in the world. Not welsh, how useful is that outside Wales oh and dont forget Patagonia.

and you'll get those spanish teachers from where exactly?

I have 5 spanish teachers in my school alone so there already there :P: thats like saying ten years ago where do you suppose we get these welsh teachers from lol :P:

My school had none. You also have to appreciate that Welsh teachers have been there for decades because education in Wales was once considered a highly respectable profession and people took it really quite seriously especially as far as the language went. Don't get me wrong, my parents are both English and I come from a monoglot Anglophone household I just don't see what the fuss is all about, it's the native language of this country and there is something of a duty for everyone to have some familiarity with it. Not everyone has to be fluent by any means but for it to cease to be a class issue then there has to be some parity. Lets face it GCSEs are about the easiest exams you'll ever sit in your life that mean anything and since you do shortcourse anyway it's not much more than knowing what Iechyd Da means or how to say Llanfair PG properly. I did go through the self-same system remember!

I did full course

The thing that really gets me though and its the same with the IB is that some pople just arent good at languages, I genuinely think its a nature thing more than a nuture thing. I am preidcted all A*'s and A's and a C in Welsh cause I am forced to take it

That's the thing, everyone's good at languages or else you wouldn't be able to learn your native one. Perhaps instead of complaining about Welsh here think about you could learn it in such a way as it makes sense to you. For example, if learning from a book doesn't work try watching television and listening to radio cymru. You mightn't understand it all but you'll know enough vocab to pick things out. Pobol Y Cwm is a good programme for that or the kids programmes for example. Then as your awareness grows you'll feel more settled and you'll have learnt more than ever you would learning from a book. Anything works, be it music or literature you just have to find what works for you. When I was learning French I used to listen to French radio and over time I got reall quite good at it. Similarly with German. There's any number of fantastic resources devoted to Welsh language learning that it doesn't have to be just what you learn in the classroom that determines what you think of something!

I have an idea teach a language from nursery and recption and year 2. Not from year 7 like me

They do! It's just informally done so children don't get overwhelmed. I had lessons in Welsh at my primary school so I doubt that you were devoid of them, you just probably didn't realise at the time!

the thing with welsh is theres no point, if you spoke fluent welsh to someone in wales they'd look at you like you belonged in a looney bin.
i know some people in the valleys who speak fluent welsh but they also speak fluet english so welsh is effectively useless as the whole point in languages is that you can comunicate with people that otherwise you cant.

some french people or french africa or canada might not speak english so french would come in handy but i cant think of a similar situation for welsh.

lol I am not lying I dint have anything till year 7

That's not at all true. Language is not just about communication with people from the present. I mean, all those people who study classics at university and learn to be fluent in Latin and Greek. What's the point of that? So they can converse with the Pope all day? No, it's about communicating with the past as well. I mean, English has not always been the lingua franca of global communications. I think there is a lack of respect for languages generally in Britain and the attitude to Celtic languages reflects a total lack of regard for alternative cultures. I'm the last person you should be telling to learn more useful languages, I think knowing French, German, Italian, and Spanish is useful enough, don't you? But refusing point blank to acknowledge the independent histories of Ireland, Scotland, and Wales by ignoring the languages spoken there prior to English becoming dominant? No, that's wrong.

England would devolve from the UK (Westminster) Parliament. The Parliament sitting in London is no more for England than it is for Scotland, Wales or N. Ireland. England is not the primary country in the UK.

well thats fine for people who want to do it, aka uni, no one is forcing 11 year olds to learn latin or greek are they?
when on a day to day basis are you going to use welsh? never