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Thousands, "up to a million" march to US Capitol against 'Obama the socialist'

How pathetic.

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html#ixzz0R8YfopWi

I know some people here may see these people as guardians of the free market, but for goodness sake the President was simply trying to introduce some sort of public option for health insurance. Accusations of 'socialist' and 'fascist' and even 'communist' are way out of line. If some of these people really are convinced that the President is trying to nationalise all American industry and is a statist then that is an epic failure on behalf of the American media, particularly Fox News.

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Reply 1
Americans are retarded.

They seem to think the left wing goes hand in hand with totalitarianism

Idiotic
Reply 2
2 out of some 300 million is a NOTHING.

Go Communism!
They fail to realise the essence of their healthcare and education systems are inherently socialist. Republican fail.
The power of ignorance and public panic mode :facepalm2:
Reply 5
If they hate socialism so much they should send their kids to privates schools then stop using public schools, and whilst they're at it they should stop using other state services like the fire service and police. If they're going to hate state provided services, they might as well do it properly.

Whilst they're at it they should stop buying from 'socialist' car companies and banks that accept government payouts, and they should stop driving on roads maintained by socialist state taxes. Hypocrites the lot of them.
Reply 6
If this was the Glenn Beck thing organised for the 12th September, crowd estimates were at 30,000.
Reply 7
a_t
Americans are retarded.



That's 300 million people nicely summed up. :rolleyes: 5PASTIC.
Reply 8
Socialised medicine is socialist. I don't see how calling a spade a spade is so out of line.

These people are, however, by and large retards for entirely different reasons.
Feral Beast
Accusations of 'socialist'... are way out of line.

I'm surprised people say stuff like this in Britain, where "socialist" is hardly some sort of political swear word. Obama's policies are pretty openly moderate socialistic. That it isn't said openly is mostly a result of America's bizarre political terminology, where social democrats are called "liberals" and "socialist" means some sort of USSR spy. This is by no means a correct use of language, though.
Reply 10
If they think socialism is so bad maybe Obama should forget the whole free healthcare thing. I mean seeing as the people are so against socialised public services.

Oh, and while he's at it he should get rid of all the other evil socialised public services, like public libraries. And public transport. Don't forget evvvilll public schools! The US postal service too!
herzblut
If they think socialism is so bad maybe Obama should forget the whole free healthcare thing. I mean seeing as the people are so against socialised public services.

Oh, and while he's at it he should get rid of all the other evil socialised public services, like public libraries. And public transport. Don't forget evvvilll public schools! The US postal service too!

Keep in mind, many of these people are opposed to Federal socialism on Constitutional grounds. Most of the things you listed are maintained by state governments.
Reply 12
numb3rb0y
Socialised medicine is socialist. I don't see how calling a spade a spade is so out of line.



Obama's plan does not propose state ownership of the healthcare industry. In the UK yes, the hospitals are owned by the government, the medical staff are hired by the government; it is a socialised system.

The Obama proposal is similar to the Dutch model where there is just a public health insurance option. The healthcare industry itself remains entirely in the market sector. That is all that is being proposed.
fire2burn
If they hate socialism so much they should send their kids to privates schools then stop using public schools, and whilst they're at it they should stop using other state services like the fire service and police. If they're going to hate state provided services, they might as well do it properly.

Whilst they're at it they should stop buying from 'socialist' car companies and banks that accept government payouts, and they should stop driving on roads maintained by socialist state taxes. Hypocrites the lot of them.

You seem fairly pro-state for someone with an "anarchist" flag in his profile. If you really are an anarchist, do you use state services yourself? If so, they presumably do so for the same reason you do - the state has engineered a situation where it is very difficult or impossible to live otherwise.
Reply 14
Collingwood
I'm surprised people say stuff like this in Britain, where "socialist" is hardly some sort of political swear word. Obama's policies are pretty openly moderate socialistic. That it isn't said openly is mostly a result of America's bizarre political terminology, where social democrats are called "liberals" and "socialist" means some sort of USSR spy. This is by no means a correct use of language, though.


Sorry, I meant that the communist and fascist allegations are out of line. The socialist label is just incorrect.
herzblut
If they think socialism is so bad maybe Obama should forget the whole free healthcare thing. I mean seeing as the people are so against socialised public services.

Oh, and while he's at it he should get rid of all the other evil socialised public services, like public libraries. And public transport. Don't forget evvvilll public schools! The US postal service too!

What's so great about the USPS, an inefficient monopoly that overcharges its customers and enforces this by having the police raid companies that offer cheaper postage? Or the appauling US state education system? Shut it all down and you'll have no complaints from me, or indeed many Americans.
Why should the poor get health care anyway. They are poor for a reason, they didn't work in school so they don't deserve the health care folk like me pay for in this country.
Reply 17
Ah glory be to the BBC!

If we didn't have them holding news reporting to some level of sanity in this country then we too may have the likes of Fox News trying to brainwash the electorate. I would like to think that the British wouldn't fall for it as quickly as the stars and stripes, but in reality I don't hold out much hope. There have been many times where I wa tempted to post a dictionary to Fox news HQ with a pointer to the definitions of socialism and facism, but they would quite rightly realise that its far more profitable to ignore such inconvienient truths.
Feral Beast
Sorry, I meant that the communist and fascist allegations are out of line. The socialist label is just incorrect.

Well, I don't think it is. He wants state subsidised health provision - right or wrong this is certainly a socialist policy. Communism and fascism are just other forms of socialism. Probably an exaggeration, but then these things are never clearly defined anyway.
Reply 19
'Bout time someone (or 2 million someones) said something about the complete nonsense Obama is trying to pull. We understand healthcare reform is important to him. We understand the House has a Democrat majority. But his plans are absurd.

Thankfully there are still some Republicans thinking and breathing! :woo:

EDIT: I was negged for this post and for utilising the right to free speech because apparently I lack sense. :rolleyes:

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