Proposal that Independent school pupils should pay extra Uni fees

Personally I think the idea reasonable. If parents have been paying £10000 a year to send their children to independent schools there is no reason why they shouldn't pay the same for their children's university education.

Well you may think I'm making excuses but my head hurts and I'm too tired to read posts properly. What was he trying to say?

Hmm very good point. Yes and no. I suppose teachers, doctors and nurses etc should get all university fees paid for. I suppose that'd be fair.

But surely these parents really deserve a financial break after having to spend £10k a year on school fees, and should be able to spend money on themselves rather than their children once they're off to uni.

Yes, I was suggesting that in order to avoid university fees, middle class children may be sent to state schools, which will place pressure on such schools. This is bad.

But surely these parents really deserve a financial break after having to spend £10k a year on school fees, and should be able to spend money on themselves rather than their children once they're off to uni.

They don't 'have' to spend £10k on their children's education. There is an option; the state sector

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He said that if the system is implicated, parents will send their children to state schools to avoid paying more money for university.

This will put pressure on the state system, which will require lots more money thrown at it.

This money would have to come via taxes.

You seemed to interpret this as Tek saying everone should go to state schools.

Well society benefits from university graduates (eg doctors, teachers, etc) so society should pay for them.



1) Society benefits from University graduates because we need a skilled workforce. In fact, we need Doctors and teachers, so why should we raise fees, which will restrict Higher education access, when we clearly need these people?

2) It is unfair to tax the middle class any more than they are already. To make any group of people pay more for education is simply morally wrong.

3) Not every middle class family will be able to afford this scheme, so fewer of their children will be going to university. This is wrong because:
[INDENT]a) Education is a basic right and in a developed country our core education should be extended to University.
b) We'll see fewer Doctors and teachers graduating when we need said people.[/INDENT]

Oh no I didn't. I new exactly what he was saying, I was twisting what he said and changing it so it was how I wanted - sort of.

Oh no I didn't. I new exactly what he was saying, I was twisting what he said and changing it so it was how I wanted - sort of.

It's not only teachers, doctors, and nurses who benefit society. Almost every university graduate will contribute to society in a positive way, mainly theough the economy, and hence they should also have their fees paid for them.

YES and so many middle class families will send their children to state schools to avoid university fees, which will place a great strain on state schools!

If this is implemented so it affects any pupil going INTO an independent school from a certain date in the future, parents know that this will happen.

And as for 1), are you suggesting that the comprehesive system is incapable of creating doctors and teachers? As for point 3, if it is implemented as I have suggested, then parents will take into account the cost of university as well as the cost of the school. Not every child can afford to go to an independent school and a child of similar ability to some students inside public schools can not attend simply because of the wealth of their family.

If there is an increased demand for more state schools, LEAs will be given money to build new ones. It is the right of every single child in this country to have a state education unless their parents opt out. In my area there are no private schools or state grammars at all and the standard of the comprehensives seems a lot higher than elsewhere.

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YES and so many middle class families will send their children to state schools to avoid university fees, which will place a great strain on state schools!

The proportion of students in public schools is small. Of these people, I would expect only a minority would be forced to switch from independent to comp. Thereby, the strain on the system would be far less than if there were a sudden influx of babies during a baby boom period.

In some areas, the only "good" option is a private one.?!

And where will the money for LEAs come from? Taxes!! So why not just raise taxes and offer free or reduced university education to everyone?!