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What happened to the 2!? (integrating trig)

The 2 has disappeared in the integration and I am very sad because I don't know why :frown:

I know secxtanx integrated = secx which is why it equals sec^2x but the constant 2 is just gone and I wondered if there was an explanation behind this!



Someone explain please? :smile:
Original post by Crazydavy
Someone explain please? :smile:


Try differentiating sec^2 x and see what you get. Use the chain rule.
Reply 2
Original post by Crazydavy
The 2 has disappeared in the integration and I am very sad because I don't know why :frown:

I know secxtanx integrated = secx which is why it equals sec^2x but the constant 2 is just gone and I wondered if there was an explanation behind this!



Someone explain please? :smile:


AS secx=secxtanxsec'x=secx\cdot tanx
your integral form is
f(x)fn(x) dx=fn+1(x)n+1+C\int f'(x)\cdot f^n(x)\ dx=\frac{f^{n+1}(x)}{n+1}+C
2secxsecx dx=2sec2x2+C2\int secx\cdot sec'x\ dx=2\cdot \frac {sec^2x}{2}+C
Reply 3
Thanks you two!! :smile:
Reply 4
Original post by ztibor
AS secx=secxtanxsec'x=secx\cdot tanx
your integral form is
f(x)fn(x) dx=fn+1(x)n+1+C\int f'(x)\cdot f^n(x)\ dx=\frac{f^{n+1}(x)}{n+1}+C
2secxsecx dx=2sec2x2+C2\int secx\cdot sec'x\ dx=2\cdot \frac {sec^2x}{2}+C


Shouldn't it be (f(x))n+1(f(x))^{n+1}

Because using that notation is like: (for example)
f(x)=sin(x)f(x)=sin(x)
f2(x)=sin(sin(x))f^{2}(x)=sin(sin(x))

:confused:
Reply 5
Original post by ElMoro
Shouldn't it be (f(x))n+1(f(x))^{n+1}

Because using that notation is like: (for example)
f(x)=sin(x)f(x)=sin(x)
f2(x)=sin(sin(x))f^{2}(x)=sin(sin(x))

:confused:


fn(x)f^n(x) means here [f(x)]n[f(x)]^n
n can be any real (even 1) except 0 and -1
the nth derivative of f
f(n)(x)f^{(n)}(x)
or the second derivative
f(2)(x)=f(x)f^{(2)}(x)=f''(x)
(edited 13 years ago)
Reply 6
Original post by ztibor
fn(x)f^n(x) means here [f(x)]n[f(x)]^n
n can be any real (even 1) except 0 and -1
the nth derivative of f
f(n)(x)f^{(n)}(x)
or the second derivative
f(2)(x)=f(x)f^{(2)}(x)=f''(x)


It's usually a better idea to write (f(x))n(f(x))^n, or f(x)nf(x)^n if you don't want to use brackets. It's quite ambiguous notation, but when I see fn(x)f^n(x) (where n>0n > 0) I interpret it to mean (fffn times)(x)\displaystyle ( \underbrace{f \circ f \circ \cdots \circ f}_{n \text{ times}})(x).

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