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#121
(Original post by 2776)
Actually it stops students from the middles classes more. As the poorer class would be given grants etc. Whilst teh rich don't really care.
Actually it stops students from the middles classes more. As the poorer class would be given grants etc. Whilst teh rich don't really care.
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#122
(Original post by Kuz)
I was sure that poorer students would be given extended loans...i.e. extended debt!
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I was sure that poorer students would be given extended loans...i.e. extended debt!
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#123
(Original post by 2776)
No. A quick calculation shows us that after grants, EMA etc. The students only pays for around an extra £75 per year for thei course.
No. A quick calculation shows us that after grants, EMA etc. The students only pays for around an extra £75 per year for thei course.
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#124
it sucks it gets thru with such a meagre majority, we were all watching it in our flat and just shouted at the tv when the verdict was read out. Oh well... maybe the Lords will deny the bills progress... and maybe pigs will fly

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#125
There is one thing that really irks me about this proposed system. You can get 2 people who went to the same university on the same course to get the same degree, who then end up in equally highly paid jobs.
But student A, whose parents are middle class, will have to pay more money back to pay of his/her loan than student B, who comes from a working class background and got grants.
How is that just?
But student A, whose parents are middle class, will have to pay more money back to pay of his/her loan than student B, who comes from a working class background and got grants.
How is that just?
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#126
(Original post by Tednol)
There is one thing that really irks me about this proposed system. You can get 2 people who went to the same university on the same course to get the same degree, who then end up in equally highly paid jobs.
But student A, whose parents are middle class, will have to pay more money back to pay of his/her loan than student B, who comes from a working class background and got grants.
How is that just?
There is one thing that really irks me about this proposed system. You can get 2 people who went to the same university on the same course to get the same degree, who then end up in equally highly paid jobs.
But student A, whose parents are middle class, will have to pay more money back to pay of his/her loan than student B, who comes from a working class background and got grants.
How is that just?

Its the better off working class/lower middle class ppl who lose out most. Mind you, I think you should be getting more agitated about student C than student B - there are many more of them!!!
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