Does the welfare system cause you "huge resentment" ?

Because:
1 - Not everyone under 25 can stay with their parents.
2 - Staying with their parents may mean having to quit their job. Not a great idea.
3 - Staying with their parents may make getting a job an awful lot more difficult because of location.
As for rent, that is what HB is for. duh.

Diddums! They have to share rooms with siblings! ZOMG, my heart bleeds.
Or do they have to rearrange their home so that cannot fit their home cinema in?

This has been such an eye-opening post, thank you WelshBlueBird!

So the taxpayer should fund this?

Boom, that is the reason why they want to cut it. There is no entitlement.

Why not?
You think people should be forced to move in with abusive parents?
Or forced to sleep on their parents floor?
Or forced to give up a job?
Or forced to spend even longer on the dole by moving to a place where job prospects are even worse?

rofl. This has got nothing to do with the Daily Mail though.
The "solutions" this government has WILL affect genuine cases aswell as the benefit cheats, unless there are some serious changes to the ideas.

Or what if the parents simply say no?

As I said, it isn't about skills. Its about getting ANY job.
In many places, the jobs just simply are not there. You can retrain as much as you like. It still will not help you.

And if the megabus does not go to where your interview is?

I was challenging how you feel that under 25s are so entitled.

To answer some of the questions:
1. Sofa-bed.
2. Live with a nearby relative.

I highly doubt a good parent would do that.

On your bike.

How about making tea for people?

FFS, stop ignoring what Cameron said at the same time as this proposal. Just because you don't believe him about protection for special cases, it doesn't mean that the reforms will be a straight axe. You are still straw manning the hell out of this through speculation.

Benefits are much higher in ROI. The full dole is €198 a week. On top of that you get child benefit, rent allowance, fuel allowance, school books and uniform support, family income support...etc. There is a sliding scale if you are under 25, and if you haven't paid enough stamps, the dole you get is lower again. But it's not going to go below €120 unless you live at home and your parents have decent incomes. And you can still get rent allowance etc.

A report has been published which states that 44% of people currently working in Ireland are better off on the dole. That's insane.

No why would I?

Why should someone who is 24 be forced to live with their parents but not a person who is 25?



1 - Not a very good solution to a long term problem.

I don't resent legitimate claimants, those that exploit the system are the only people that deserve to be resented.

I also don't subscribe to the fact everyone must be punished as a result of the exploitation of the few.

I am fed up of reading about how these people need to get jobs and buzz phrases like incentive to work. If there aren't enough jobs to go around then there will be unemployed, in a climate where people are getting laid off because companies are going bust then those that have experience will jump ahead of the longer term unemployed when it comes to getting new jobs. It's far easier to target these people and brandish them scroungers than to actually resolve the issues leading to people being unemployed, or certain families thinking they can play the system.

Yes, but they are still a safeguard for those unable to get housing, which is a GOOD thing.

What are you on about? I never said that and it appears you trot this out for everyone who disagrees. Shelters are good to keep people off the street.

I don't agree with me by the sound of it, haha. You have not only missed the point, but I have no idea what you are ranting about. I said that the special circumstances of individuals who would be left homeless would probably have provisions made for them.

why would you get a low paid job when you can sit at home doing nothing and play xbox for a similar amount? Those who really need income support deserve it, thought I've heard of people turning down jobs since its easier on the dole.

I was challenging how you feel that under 25s are so entitled.

To answer some of the questions:
1. Sofa-bed.
2. Live with a nearby relative.

But they can always try to find a job.