Does the welfare system cause you "huge resentment" ?

the ironic thing is, you say the only way a person can contribute to society is by working (you mean paying tax)

yet you as a wannabe future tax payer dont want to give any of your money away to taxes as its 'yours'

if your working and hoarding all your money to yourself you arnt contributing to society

this goes for anyone who doesnt pay tax, to you

you dont want to pay tax so if you got your way you wouldnt be contributing, from your point of view

Where am I complaining? I said I'm prepared for having to live in a shelter or whatever, since when has that equated to complaining?

I thought we were discussing people who have been brought up on disability benefits because their parents are disabled.

I didn't say it was the only way.

I want my taxes to be spent on the right things.

Well then what are you arguing against then? You don't want to give people any money and then anytime people directly confront you about any specific benefit you jump to 'oh, I'm not against that one'.

moral of the story- imsoacademic, ironlady and co dont want to contribute but they like to complain that everyone else should, they are bitter that they have to pay taxes and some people dont

very hypocritical

if you dont want to contribute, and hate paying taxes, why dont you take the perfect solution?

give your job up and live on benefits, im sure you'll have fun living the 5* high life (that only exists in your stereotypical misinformed and bitter dreams)

Please enlighten us as to what the right things are?

I didn't say it was the only way.

I want my taxes to be spent on the right things.

Specifically regarding welfare (as this is what the discussion is about) - money to provide for the bare necessities. Nothing more, nothing less.

People on benefits should not have 5* lifestyles.

But who decides what the necessities are?

Food, water clothes, shelter, toiletries... Have I missed anything out?

What about a phone? I need a phone because if my parents need me urgently for something to do with my dad, they need to be able to contact me (and they SHOULD be able to contact me through the college, but of the many times my parents have phoned up asking for a message to be relayed, not once has it gotten through).

EDIT - To be fair I pay for my phone with EMA because it's something I do need for college, so it's not coming out of the benefits but it's still taxpayer money.

Apart from that I do agree with you, but I still can't see why you dislike the idea of charities such as Carers Trust etc taking young carers, disabled people etc on days out. Only a minority of the funding comes from taxpayers, the majority is from fundraising they do and donations given to them. Besides, I've already highlighted the amount carers save the government.

People on benefits should not have 5* lifestyles.

They don't.
Why are you still arguing?

I've no idea then why that other user made that comment.

(that only exists in your stereotypical misinformed and bitter dreams)

Are you qualified in mental health?

Although from your posts you often seem as though you're on the verge of a breakdown

I gather you were spoiled as a child

so that's why you love spending money unnecessarily?

No such thing as society

Indeed, but it usually only extends to as far as other people who are in need not their wants.

True not everyone on benefits is a scrounger

though plenty are and plenty who are on benefits are on there simply because it was the easiest way out.

In case you haven't noticed, not everyone who works can afford fun.

If you fail to get a job (not necessarily straight out of graduation) that's because you chose the wrong course/university and/or made little effort to make yourself employable.

No, I will. Unlike other people, at least I wouldn't just give up on finding a job. It is my civil duty to do so.

* The cost of housing benefit is exponentially out of control.

* Some not very well off working people, including those on minimum wages, are being asked to bear the burden of it.

* There's no money left.

People on benefits should not have 5* lifestyles.

Evidence? What Carr did was legal.

Because the amount given in benefits is fine now. People are still complaining.

Fine, then keep it as it is if you cannot suggest a figure.

Yet interestingly a few comments down I did say "people on benefits should have a crap life" yet you replied "you implied it".

**** that, I'm not paying.

Oh really? Where exactly have I said anything about any of those things? Oh, I haven't!

How?

Where exactly have I said anything about any of those things? Oh, I haven't!

Bull****.

So the majority living in absolute poverty have mental illnesses?

It's her fault if she doesn't do anything about it.

Always looking for excuses.

So be it.

1. That's life.
2. It's not worth it.

Blame private landlords, not those who need help to pay the rent.

So what about the not very well off working people, including those on minimum wages, who NEED things like housing benefit to survive?

So why are we wasting money on things like Libya, on things like free schools, on things like increasing tuition fees (which will likely cost the taxpayer MORE than the old system).