which social class are you?

Like most in here.

In terms of finance, lower middle class. In terms of attitude or outlook in life middle class.

But that will probably change when I move to New Zealand (which is in the foreseeable future). I think this country would help me realise one of my aims, and that is to disassociate myself with any class

No, I can't say I've had that pleasure. Was it the Laird of the land?

I think there is a slightly worrying ratio of middle:working class people on here (now I see why I get all the "die commie" rep ). But seriously, I wonder why that is. Perhaps that working class people are dropping out of school earlier and so generally don't go on a site like this which is [obviously] full of "geeks"?

I don't see why that is particularly "worrying". I am certainly not worried by middle class people.

I doubt it's even representative of the sort of people who go on to higher education either.

I didn't say that middle class people are worrying (which arguably....), but the ratio of middle to working class people on here is worrying. It means that everything is slanted towards the middle classes. I think on most of the forums here, this makes little difference, but over on d&d it's a lot more influencial.

I didn't say that middle class people are worrying (which arguably....), but the ratio of middle to working class people on here is worrying. It means that everything is slanted towards the middle classes. I think on most of the forums here, this makes little difference, but over on d&d it's a lot more influencial.

How is it influential "over on D&D"? All i've noticed on TSR is that theres a seemingly disproportionate amount of Bible-bashing, evangelical imbeciles on here, the left wingers on here are ignorant, and the conservatives are just plain stupid.
How exactly does money come into all this?

Why are socialists always moaning about other people having money anyway, what harm does the average middle class family inflict on you?

Middle class people in Britain are the workers, the people who drive our economy, employ people in industries that would simply not exist in a socialist society, and they pay their taxes- significantly more than working class people do.

I had always been told that you could only be upper class if you had a title, and that it didn't matter how rich you were you could never be higher than middle class. (This may be one of my strange ideas that I get from somewhere and that anyone who I think may have told me it denies it. )

But what are classes based on anyway: money, out-look on life, what job you have, what kind of things you do? There are general trends among people, but I don't think people can be segregated into classes simply based on certain criteria.

How is it influential "over on D&D"? All i've noticed on TSR is that theres a seemingly disproportionate amount of Bible-bashing, evangelical imbeciles on here, the left wingers on here are ignorant, and the conservatives are just plain stupid.
How exactly does money come into all this?

Why are socialists always moaning about other people having money anyway, what harm does the average middle class family inflict on you?

Middle class people in Britain are the workers, the people who drive our economy, employ people in industries that would simply not exist in a socialist society, and they pay their taxes- significantly more than working class people do.

Middle. I'm at university, duh.

none directly, of course. But as a group together they help the capitalist machine, that's bad enough in itself. The middle classes are relatively content, they would probably never join in revolution because they aren't skrewed over enough by the government.


er....working class people don't tend to pay their taxes? ^o)

It is the middle classes that pay for government handouts that go to the working class! (some of them). If anyone gets skrwed by the government its the middle classes, we pay the highest taxes, without being rich enough that it does not matter. Middle classes i suspect are the ones that add the most to the country, our contribution is disproportionate to our population. if everyone was middle class this country would be better.

There will allways be working class people though, and i don't dislike them in any way. Because i don't judge people like that, i judge them on their personality.

Its just the things you say Thud... you seem a bit of an idealist to me. This isn't 1900, its 2006. We have a representative democracy, the "working class" aren't repressed. They get the most help of any class (tax credits anyone?!).

to be fair: as much as im against ALL forms of benefit, tax credits are the best of a bad bunch (if the government was actually competent in calculating them of course )

as they actually make families work for there money, and i do feel that families who work (but earn low incomes for whatever reason) should get some 'benefit' as its an incentive for them to work.

I feel more supportive to that kind of benefit rather than the other "sit at home and produce children" benefits..where you earn money for NOT working, having children that you cant really afford (but its ok because the state will clothe, feed, school it, give it medicine, pay its uni tutition fees, and give it trips abroad or other rewards if it commits crime)

I have no issue with people TRYING to better themselves, and feel they should be rewarded for doing so. Some people (particulalry the older generations, less so today) didnt have access to higher education, so are stuck in low end jobs..when they are far capable of doing more, just never had the opportunity. Like my own mum HAD to work at age 16..regardless of her good grades, as her family couldent afford to send her to college/university. Shes only recently done the masters degree she has always been capable of, thats just one example of someone who was stuck in a job below their ability for many years (though not the case for the last 20years or so, but that was acheived through hard work, not qualifications)

So i feel tax credits are a good idea, as it encourages parents to work.