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Can decimals be odd or even?

I was just wondering if the normal rules for odd and even numbers could be applied or perhaps extended to included decimal numbers as well. I thought it would be something involving the denominator of the fraction e.g. 1.4=7/5 but this is just a guess and probably wrong :tongue:

Thanks for the help
Reply 1
Original post by majmuh24
I was just wondering if the normal rules for odd and even numbers could be applied or perhaps extended to included decimal numbers as well. I thought it would be something involving the denominator of the fraction e.g. 1.4=7/5 but this is just a guess and probably wrong :tongue:

Thanks for the help


Short answer: no

Longer answer: 7/5 = 14/10 so would that be odd or even in your system?
Reply 2
Original post by davros
Short answer: no

Longer answer: 7/5 = 14/10 so would that be odd or even in your system?


Fair enough, didn't think so :frown:

Well, that can still be reduced to the simpler terms of 7/5 so I am talking about the simplest form of the fraction , so it would be odd if this system is even right (it was just a guess anyway :tongue:)
Original post by davros
Short answer: no

Longer answer: 7/5 = 14/10 so would that be odd or even in your system?

Original post by majmuh24
Well, that can still be reduced to the simpler terms of 7/5 so I am talking about the simplest form of the fraction , so it would be odd if this system is even right (it was just a guess anyway :tongue:)

What about pi, or any irrational number (can't be expressed as a fraction)?
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Reply 4
You could define rational numbers to be odd or even depending on the parity of their numorator when in their simplest form, but I don't think there is any sensible way to do it for irrationals.

EDIT: I suppose you extend it to at least algebraic numbers by making use of properties of their polynomial, but you would have to be carful with being consistent.
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Being odd/even is a quality that is only applied to integers so the answer would be no.
Reply 6
Original post by benplumley
What about pi, or any irrational number (can't be expressed as a fraction)?


I think this would only apply to numbers that could only expressed as a ratio of two integers, but I saw a link explaining some stuff about abstract algebra maps but it went a bit over my head, but maybe you can understand it :tongue:

Original post by james22
You could define rational numbers to be odd or even depending on the parity of their numorator when in their simplest form, but I don't think there is any sensible way to do it for irrationals.

EDIT: I suppose you extend it to at least algebraic numbers by making use of properties of their polynomial, but you would have to be carful with being consistent.


Yeah, I saw a link about this but I didn't get most of it so maybe it'll make more sense to you :tongue:
http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/92451/can-decimal-numbers-be-considered-even-or-odd

How would you go about classing algebraic polynomials as odd or even?
Reply 7
Original post by majmuh24

Yeah, I saw a link about this but I didn't get most of it so maybe it'll make more sense to you :tongue:
http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/92451/can-decimal-numbers-be-considered-even-or-odd

How would you go about classing algebraic polynomials as odd or even?


That link is interesting, it gives the same definition I did of even/odd rationals but in a more complicated way (it goes much further though).

I suppose that for alegbraic numbers you could consider their integer polynomial of minimum degree with no common factors to all coefficiants (I think this is well defined i.e. there cannot be 2 such polynomials for 1 number), and then use the parity of that polynomial when evaluated at 0. This is consistent with the definition for rationals I gave.

I have no idea how to extend this to general real numbers, but I will have a think.
Reply 8
Original post by james22
That link is interesting, it gives the same definition I did of even/odd rationals but in a more complicated way (it goes much further though).

I suppose that for alegbraic numbers you could consider their integer polynomial of minimum degree with no common factors to all coefficiants (I think this is well defined i.e. there cannot be 2 such polynomials for 1 number), and then use the parity of that polynomial when evaluated at 0. This is consistent with the definition for rationals I gave.

I have no idea how to extend this to general real numbers, but I will have a think.


Nice to see that you understand it, but it's a bit too complex for me

So if I'm right, your method involves reducing a polynomial such as x3+2x+3x^3+2x+3 to it's simplest form and the substituting 0 in as the value of x and evaluating the parity of this result, which in this case would be odd.

Seems alright to me, but there may be other ways which don't place as much importance on the constant term which seems to me to be the main focus of your method (that is if I even understand it properly :tongue:)

Edit: Also, there are even more questions that are interesting to consider (does the concept of odd or even apply to imaginary and complex numbers as well)
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Reply 9
Original post by benplumley
What about pi, or any irrational number (can't be expressed as a fraction)?

Is it not possible to express pi as pi2/pi ?
Reply 10
Original post by majmuh24
Nice to see that you understand it, but it's a bit too complex for me

So if I'm right, your method involves reducing a polynomial such as x3+2x+3x^3+2x+3 to it's simplest form and the substituting 0 in as the value of x and evaluating the parity of this result, which in this case would be odd.

Seems alright to me, but there may be other ways which don't place as much importance on the constant term which seems to me to be the main focus of your method (that is if I even understand it properly :tongue:)


That's effectively what I am saying, the parity of teh constant term is what matters. The problem with considering anything else is that with an integer. say a, the polynomial for that number is xax-a, and we need the parity of a to be consistent with the parity deduced for the polynomial. There may be a more interesting method that doesn't have this problem though, and I don't really see anything interesting about the constant term of an algebraic numbers polynomial.
Original post by james22
That's effectively what I am saying, the parity of teh constant term is what matters. The problem with considering anything else is that with an integer. say a, the polynomial for that number is xax-a, and we need the parity of a to be consistent with the parity deduced for the polynomial. There may be a more interesting method that doesn't have this problem though, and I don't really see anything interesting about the constant term of an algebraic numbers polynomial.


Right, I understand what you mean now.

Would there be a way to apply the concept of odd and even to imaginary/complex numbers as well?
Original post by Delta, Δ
Is it not possible to express pi as pi2/pi ?


So are you trying to say that π \pi in base π \pi would be considered an odd number, because that sounds OK to me? I guess there are different concepts of odd and even for numbers depending on what base you use :tongue:
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