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A (probably) easy M3 question

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In question 5.b, why are they just using T=mgSin(theta) to find out the tension when Sin(theta)=1/3 but they're using the circular motion formula when the Sin(theta)=1/2? Why don't you use the circular motion formula in the first case (or why don't you use the T=mgSin(theta) relationship in the second case)? Thanks.
Original post by Chlorophile
Paper in question (Q. 5b)
Mark scheme

In question 5.b, why are they just using T=mgSin(theta) to find out the tension when Sin(theta)=1/3 but they're using the circular motion formula when the Sin(theta)=1/2? Why don't you use the circular motion formula in the first case (or why don't you use the T=mgSin(theta) relationship in the second case)? Thanks.


I did terrible at M3, but here's an attempt at an answer:

They are using the same formula in both cases. For sin(theta)=1/3, V=0 so the circular motion part of T is 0. For theta=pi/2, sin(pi/2)=1 so you could write this as T=(mv^2)/3a+mgsin(pi/2).
Original post by Chlorophile
Paper in question (Q. 5b)
Mark scheme

In question 5.b, why are they just using T=mgSin(theta) to find out the tension when Sin(theta)=1/3 but they're using the circular motion formula when the Sin(theta)=1/2? Why don't you use the circular motion formula in the first case (or why don't you use the T=mgSin(theta) relationship in the second case)? Thanks.


The general formula for this question is T=mv2/r+mgsin(θ)T=mv^2/r+mg\sin(\theta)

When sin(θ)=1/3\sin(\theta)=1/3, v=0 and the first term is zero, hence....

When θ=π/2\theta=\pi /2 , v is not zero, and you have to account for it.
Original post by ghostwalker
The general formula for this question is T=mv2/r+mgsin(θ)T=mv^2/r+mg\sin(\theta)

When sin(θ)=1/3\sin(\theta)=1/3, v=0 and the first term is zero, hence....

When θ=π/2\theta=\pi /2 , v is not zero, and you have to account for it.


Original post by rayquaza17
I did terrible at M3, but here's an attempt at an answer:

They are using the same formula in both cases. For sin(theta)=1/3, V=0 so the circular motion part of T is 0. For theta=pi/2, sin(pi/2)=1 so you could write this as T=(mv^2)/3a+mgsin(pi/2).


Thanks a lot! It makes sense now :biggrin:

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