England Vs The Rest of Great Britain

I use it all the time. It's also come in quite useful for a multitude of other things. Have you ever read Lord of the Rings btw?

Much better Ken Clarke's idea to prevent Westminster MPs from constituencies governed by the devolved assemblies from voting in England-only matters.

High oil prices mean that Scotland is in surplus this year.

one central bank (rename the Bank of England to something like the Bank of Britain)

This leads me to my second point: why is England the only country in Britain paying tuition fees and prescriptions?

I agree, before long it will be devolved down into counties if we keep on going and we will lose all collective power. At the end of the day if any country within Britain should get free university fees it should be England because it has more internationally recognised and high calibre universities and students than Wales, NI, and Scotland put together.

Neither of these is points is true.



Well, for one we don't have the Olympic Games - which seems to be the current financial irk of the Scottish nationalists and indeed the connected things: the most recent I remember in the news was free swimming for over 60s in England.

Yes it is true; England is the only country that pays both tuition fees and prescriptions, NIs prescriptions are only on hold at the moment but they will be frozen and free for a long time to come. I'm sure if it was put to a vote and we had the choice we'd choose not to have the olympic games for free prescriptions and education.

I live in Wales and we neither have free prescriptions or free tuition fees.



Grant

It has well over 7 times the population of Ireland, Wales and Scotland put together... My point is that we have better universities as well i.e. Oxbridge, who we as Britain would do better to pay for than all of Scotland because their education is more valuable. They could obviously have the same thing for St Andrews and Edinburgh, basically any uni in the UK worth it's salt but I think it takes the piss that somebody doing puppet studies in Scotland gets their fees paid and somebody doing Physics at Oxford does not.

I'm sure they said on the news the other day that they were scraping those in Wales thanks to the Welsh assembly . Just found this sorry:
http://www.hero.ac.uk/uk/studying/funding_your_study/2006_entry/wales.cfm
You get it for over half the price!

No free prescriptions and No free tuition fees in wales just a grant.

And there are only a small amount of universities in Wales:

1.Cardiff University (29)
2.University of Glamorgan (77)
3.University of Wales, Aberystwyth(43)
4.University of Wales College, Newport (96)
5.University of Wales Institute (85)
6.University of Wales, Swansea (48)
7.University of Wales, Bangor (51)
8.University of Wales, Carmarthan (Trinity College)
9.Swansea Metropolitan University
10.University of Wales, Lampeter(70)

So Wales has only 10 Universities to keep up with its demand, if we were a separate country Wales would have NOvets becuase that isnt offered by any of our uni's neither is PPE or the like. And worst of all the number in the brackets are the ranking on the times tables. Our top university is ranked 29th I think we should have discounted fee's FGS look how bad they are.

Just to clear things up we DON'T have free prescriptions or free tuition fee's - we have grant - for bad uni's.

Grant

They could obviously have the same thing for St Andrews and Edinburgh, basically any uni in the UK worth it's salt...

So only Edinburgh and St. Andrews in Scotland?

If those are the only universities that you think are good in Scotland, then it would be quite fair to say you'd have to pay tuition fees at Leeds.

They were examples, I can't list every university decent university in Scotland without research, hence the reason I said and any other universities worth it. Although to be fair on a world wide scale Leeds is better than St Andrews by almost 50 places! http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2006/ARWU2006FULLLIST-BY%20RANK%20(PDF).pdf

Let's put it this way if you like league tables. Glasgow beat Leeds in all three national league tables published this year and it beat it in that idiotic international one you just posted.

In the Independent league table it was beaten by Strathclyde as well, and in The Guardian it was also beaten by Dundee and Aberdeen.

It has well over 7 times the population of Ireland, Wales and Scotland put together... My point is that we have better universities as well i.e. Oxbridge, who we as Britain would do better to pay for than all of Scotland because their education is more valuable. They could obviously have the same thing for St Andrews and Edinburgh, basically any uni in the UK worth it's salt but I think it takes the piss that somebody doing puppet studies in Scotland gets their fees paid and somebody doing Physics at Oxford does not.

Yet again, as you happily glazed over to validate your petty argument, I said any university that is worth its weight. I didn't want to start a competition out of this, you were the one that attacked Leeds. Either way there are 4 universities that are better in England than the best Scottish university whose students deserve funding more on merit than the whole of Scotland does on post codes.

Here you go seeing as you failed to read it properly the first time; I clearly said that there are scottish universities worth paying for, but there are English universities that deserve funding before some of the lesser scottish universities get their tuition paid.

I'm not attacking Leeds - I'm aware that it's a very good university. What irks me is that you're ignorantly attacking the quality of higher education in Scotland.