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Cosh^-1(x)

Cosh^-1(x)
Need to differentiate a function, but don't know how
Look in your formula book?

Alternatively write coshy=5x+3\cosh y = \sqrt{5x+3} and take it from there?
Reply 2
Easiest way is probobly to take teh cosh of both sides then differentiate implicitly.
Reply 3
Original post by Mr M
Look in your formula book?

Alternatively write coshy=5x+3\cosh y = \sqrt{5x+3} and take it from there?


I got this
Original post by megafobia
I got this


Could you show some working?
Reply 5
Original post by Mr M
Could you show some working?


I did it again and I got 1/((5x+2)^(-1/2))

I have the formula 1/((x^(2)-1)^(-1/2))

I had (5x+3)^(1/2) that squared (formula) will give 5x+3
And that would make 1/(5x+3-1)^(-1/2)
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Original post by megafobia
1/(x^(2)-1)^(-1/2)

That is the formula of the derivative.

Then I simply put x into that squared, which was (5x+3)^(-1/2)


Do you know the Chain Rule?
Reply 7
Original post by Mr M
Do you know the Chain Rule?


Yeah
Original post by megafobia
Yeah


u=5x+3u=\sqrt{5x+3}

y=cosh1uy=\cosh^{-1} u

dudx=...\frac{du}{dx}=...

dydu=...\frac{dy}{du}=...

dydx=dydu×dudx\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{dy}{du} \times \frac{du}{dx}
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Reply 9
You can also use this formula

(f1)(x)=1f(f1(x))\displaystyle (f^{-1})^\prime(x) =\frac {1}{f^\prime(f^{-1}(x))}
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To be honest it is just as quick to implicitly differentiate coshy=5x+3\cosh y = \sqrt{5x+3}

sinhydydx=525x+3\sinh y \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{5}{2\sqrt{5x+3}}

Now sinh2y=cosh2y1\sinh^2 y = \cosh^2 y - 1 ...
Reply 11
Original post by Mr M
To be honest it is just as quick to implicitly differentiate coshy=5x+3\cosh y = \sqrt{5x+3}

sinhydydx=525x+3\sinh y \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{5}{2\sqrt{5x+3}}

Now sinh2y=cosh2y1\sinh^2 y = \cosh^2 y - 1 ...


I tried this and got ansss.png
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Original post by megafobia
I tried this and got ansss.png


That isn't right either.

What's your mathematical background?
Reply 13
Original post by Mr M
That isn't right either.

What's your mathematical background?


Undergraduate 1st year (with a level maths)

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As you are really struggling here's a worked solution:

Spoiler



Try to understand each step.
Original post by megafobia
Undergraduate 1st year (with a level maths)

hjkhjk.png


Undergraduate of what subject?
Reply 16
Original post by Mr M
Undergraduate of what subject?


maths
Reply 17
Original post by Mr M
As you are really struggling here's a worked solution:

Spoiler



Try to understand each step.


I get everything you've done. Are sure that it is right? I've tried putting it into this uni thing and it says that it is wrong.
Original post by megafobia
I get everything you've done. Are sure that it is right? I've tried putting it into this uni thing and it says that it is wrong.


It look ok to me.

Perhaps the "uni thing" has just written the same answer in a different form?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=differentiate+arccosh+%28%5Csqrt%285x%2B3%29%29
See if you can manipulate this to get what M has, maple and mathcad
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