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I'm on question 5. The answer I'm getting is not the one in the book

d2xdt2=10x3\frac{d^{2}x}{dt^{2}}= \frac{-10x}{3}

I can see that the particle will slow down so I understand the negative. I don't know why it's x and not x-3.

I've not used I've not used the initial speed nor the 2kg . Does that just come in to part b) which I've not had a go at yet or am I missing something from part a)?

Thanks
[QUOTE="maggiehodgson;51325497"]Hi

I'm on question 5. The answer I'm getting is not the one in the book

d2xdt2=10x3\frac{d^{2}x}{dt^{2}}= \frac{-10x}{3}

2nd, corrected, attempt.

The book is wrong, IMO.


I can see that the particle will slow down so I understand the negative. I don't know why it's x and not x-3.


It's negative because the force is in the opposite direction to x increasing.


I've not used I've not used the initial speed nor the 2kg . Does that just come in to part b) which I've not had a go at yet or am I missing something from part a)?

Thanks


Well you used the 2kg in part a).

The initial speed doesn't come into it at all.

I suspect the question in the book was modified without being checked before they went to press.
[QUOTE="ghostwalker;51326593"]
Original post by maggiehodgson
Hi

I'm on question 5. The answer I'm getting is not the one in the book

d2xdt2=10x3\frac{d^{2}x}{dt^{2}}= \frac{-10x}{3}

2nd, corrected, attempt.

The book is wrong, IMO.



It's negative because the force is in the opposite direction to x increasing.



Well you used the 2kg in part a).

The initial speed doesn't come into it at all.

I suspect the question in the book was modified without being checked before they went to press.


Ok. Thanks for the help. Yes, of course I used the 2kg -what was I thinking!


For part b) the answer is
d2xdt2=10x30.1g\frac{d^{2}x}{dt^{2}}= \frac{-10x}{3} \mp 0.1g
where the sign is + if
Unparseable latex formula:

\frac{dx}{dt}<0}}


and the sign is - if
Unparseable latex formula:

\frac{dx}{dt}>0}}



When the movement is to the right (as in my diagram) the velocity is positive and when the particle is being pulled back the velocity is negative? Does that explain the +/-?

Where does the 0.1g come from or is the book answer all wrapped up in being a modified question?
[QUOTE="maggiehodgson;51328677"]
Original post by ghostwalker


Ok. Thanks for the help. Yes, of course I used the 2kg -what was I thinking!


For part b) the answer is
d2xdt2=10x30.1g\frac{d^{2}x}{dt^{2}}= \frac{-10x}{3} \mp 0.1g
where the sign is + if
Unparseable latex formula:

\frac{dx}{dt}<0}}


and the sign is - if
Unparseable latex formula:

\frac{dx}{dt}>0}}



When the movement is to the right (as in my diagram) the velocity is positive and when the particle is being pulled back the velocity is negative? Does that explain the +/-?

Where does the 0.1g come from or is the book answer all wrapped up in being a modified question?


In part b), you now have to include a frictional force in your equation. If the particle is moving in the positive direction, the friction is acting to the left like the tension. Friction = mu x reaction, reaction = weight and then the 2 will cancel out. Give it a go!
[QUOTE="hobbit;51329207" tiny="tiny"]
Original post by maggiehodgson


In part b), you now have to include a frictional force in your equation. If the particle is moving in the positive direction, the friction is acting to the left like the tension. Friction = mu x reaction, reaction = weight and then the 2 will cancel out. Give it a go!


R = mg = 2g
F = muR =0.1x2g

How does the 2 cancel out? I must be in a really thick mode today.
Original post by maggiehodgson


R = mg = 2g
F = muR =0.1x2g

How does the 2 cancel out? I must be in a really thick mode today.


F= 0.2g

Then resultant force is -20x/3 +/- 0.2g and this equals ma = 2a and 2's cancel throughout.
Original post by ghostwalker
F= 0.2g

Then resultant force is -20x/3 +/- 0.2g and this equals ma = 2a and 2's cancel throughout.



Yep. Got it.

Just to be clear it is -20(x-3)/3 isn't it not -20x/3?
Original post by maggiehodgson
Yep. Got it.

Just to be clear it is -20(x-3)/3 isn't it not -20x/3?


Yes.

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