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AQA A2 Mathematics MM2B Mechanics 2 - Monday 22nd June 2015 [Exam Discussion Thread]

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Reply 340
Original post by Tiwa
Thanks a lot!


No worries :smile:


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Reply 341
Original post by sarcastic-sal
Just done Jan 2013 and the last part of question 9 took forever to do :frown: I'm worried I'm not going to have enough time for a tricky 'show that' question


That question is horrid. I still can't do it despite trying it twice. It was in my opinion the hardest ever M2 question


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Original post by CD223
That question is horrid. I still can't do it despite trying it twice. It was in my opinion the hardest ever M2 question


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I can post my working if you want? I gave up, marked my paper and then just as I found a video to explain it I had an 'omg I think I know how to do this' moment. I'm glad it was only 5 marks though because it meant I still got an A* UMS-wise
Reply 343
Original post by sarcastic-sal
I can post my working if you want? I gave up, marked my paper and then just as I found a video to explain it I had an 'omg I think I know how to do this' moment. I'm glad it was only 5 marks though because it meant I still got an A* UMS-wise


Oh what video?:smile: if you wouldnt mind posting I'd appreciate it.


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Original post by CD223
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA4F-p5Hj_4

My method:

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Sorry about them being sideways
Reply 345
Can someone please help me understand how to find the angle in no (c).. Mark scheme is also attached
Reply 346
Original post by sarcastic-sal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA4F-p5Hj_4

My method:

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Sorry about them being sideways


Thanks! That makes so much more sense. I still wouldn't have got that in the exam haha.


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Original post by CD223
Thanks! That makes so much more sense. I still wouldn't have got that in the exam haha.


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Neither would I. I was panicking as I couldn't do that one and my answer for the epe question seemed odd (but fortunately it was right) and M2 grade boundaries are unforgiving.
The examiner's report said this question was 'designed to discriminate between grades A and A*' and 'There was much inventive algebra shown in part (c) to obtain the printed result.'
I can't stand how cutting and sarcastic the examiners reports are (although sometimes it is quite funny)
Original post by aeryk
Can someone please help me understand how to find the angle in no (c).. Mark scheme is also attached


I've just done this paper so I'll post my working out:
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For simplicity I've drawn the lamina the same way up as the diagram gives it, but the dashed line represents the horizontal direction and the solid line represents the vertical.
You know that when the lamina is suspended from point H that the vertical will pass directly through the centre of mass. You're given the distance of the COM from AH and you've just worked out the distance from AB. The distance of the COM from HC is just 30cm - 13.6cm and so you can form a triangle and work out the angle required.
Edit: don't be thrown off by the COM not actually being where the lamina 'exists' as per say
Another edit: Theta is the angle between HG and the horizontal and x is the other angle in the right angled triangle. I did it a long winded way and you could actually just do the tan of theta straight away but apparently I make things harder for myself
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Reply 349
Original post by sarcastic-sal
I've just done this paper so I'll post my working out:
DSCF8009.jpg
For simplicity I've drawn the lamina the same way up as the diagram gives it, but the dashed line represents the horizontal direction and the solid line represents the vertical.
You know that when the lamina is suspended from point H that the vertical will pass directly through the centre of mass. You're given the distance of the COM from AH and you've just worked out the distance from AB. The distance of the COM from HC is just 30cm - 13.6cm and so you can form a triangle and work out the angle required.
Edit: don't be thrown off by the COM not actually being where the lamina 'exists' as per say
Another edit: Theta is the angle between HG and the horizontal and x is the other angle in the right angled triangle. I did it a long winded way and you could actually just do the tan of theta straight away but apparently I make things harder for myself


Thank u so much.. That made a lot of sense
Reply 350
Original post by sarcastic-sal
Neither would I. I was panicking as I couldn't do that one and my answer for the epe question seemed odd (but fortunately it was right) and M2 grade boundaries are unforgiving.
The examiner's report said this question was 'designed to discriminate between grades A and A*' and 'There was much inventive algebra shown in part (c) to obtain the printed result.'
I can't stand how cutting and sarcastic the examiners reports are (although sometimes it is quite funny)


Hahahaha I know what you mean. Especially when I make the same mistake they have a dig at.


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Reply 351
Original post by sarcastic-sal
I've just done this paper so I'll post my working out:
DSCF8009.jpg
For simplicity I've drawn the lamina the same way up as the diagram gives it, but the dashed line represents the horizontal direction and the solid line represents the vertical.
You know that when the lamina is suspended from point H that the vertical will pass directly through the centre of mass. You're given the distance of the COM from AH and you've just worked out the distance from AB. The distance of the COM from HC is just 30cm - 13.6cm and so you can form a triangle and work out the angle required.
Edit: don't be thrown off by the COM not actually being where the lamina 'exists' as per say
Another edit: Theta is the angle between HG and the horizontal and x is the other angle in the right angled triangle. I did it a long winded way and you could actually just do the tan of theta straight away but apparently I make things harder for myself

Just wanted to know which angle do I need to find if the question had asked to find the angle between HG and downward vertical..
can someone explain why for jan 13 q 3 you have to work in radians?
Reply 353
Original post by alex27996
can someone explain why for jan 13 q 3 you have to work in radians?


Sorry, what do you mean?

They give you what sinθ\sin \theta equals so that you can just use the numerical value when multiplying by the weight to find the component of the weight acting down the slope.

This means the driving force at maximum power must equal the resistance force plus the component of the weight down the slope. You don't have to find θ\theta at any stage.

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Original post by CD223
Sorry, what do you mean?

They give you what sinθ\sin \theta equals so that you can just use the numerical value when multiplying by the weight to find the component of the weight acting down the slope.

This means the driving force at maximum power must equal the resistance force plus the component of the weight down the slope. You don't have to find θ\theta at any stage.

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Well when i first did the calculation in degrees i came to the wrong answer, redid it in radians and got the right answer?
Reply 355
Original post by alex27996
Well when i first did the calculation in degrees i came to the wrong answer, redid it in radians and got the right answer?


That is odd. You shouldn't need to convert to degrees though, as the calculation just involves sin theta, which has the value they give in the question.


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Which are the hardest past papers?
Reply 357
Original post by Red Fox
Which are the hardest past papers?


Not sure about the hardest paper in itself, but if you haven't already then try Q9 January 2013.


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Original post by CD223
Not sure about the hardest paper in itself, but if you haven't already then try Q9 January 2013.


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I'll give it a go now:tongue:.
I'm stuck on question 5b from this exercise sheet:http://www.madasmaths.com/archive/maths_booklets/mechanics/m2_m3_elastic_strings_springs.pdf

The answer is 1.65m
Here's what I've done could someone point out where I went wrong
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