Not having A level Physics would be a problem if you were to choose applied maths modules later on. Further maths is the key to success at easing the transition as some of the content is taught again.
THIS IS JUST MY OPINION Universities requirements for a Maths degree: - 'A' grade at A Level Maths (good) - Further maths A level as part of your offer (very good) - STEP 1/2/3 (elite)
Not having A level Physics would be a problem if you were to choose applied maths modules later on. Further maths is the key to success at easing the transition as some of the content is taught again.
THIS IS JUST MY OPINION Universities requirements for a Maths degree: - 'A' grade at A Level Maths (good) - Further maths A level as part of your offer (very good) - STEP 1/2/3 (elite)
TeeEm can shed some light on this.
what if you get A* in a level maths, but dont do further maths?
most maths applicants to the top unis will find a-level maths and further maths trivial. STEP is the real killer.
STEP should not be a killer. It does separate the decent from the very good but that's about it. The elite applicants get two S grades at STEP. But I agree that maths/further maths A level is a trivial exercise for top applicants.
I just want to echo what some others have said: if you think you'll find A Level Further Maths too difficult, why do you think you'll be able to cope with a university degree in Maths?
STEP should not be a killer. It does separate the decent from the very good but that's about it. The elite applicants get two S grades at STEP. But I agree that maths/further maths A level is a trivial exercise for top applicants.
I don't quite agree with what you're saying here. It's taken by circa 2% of the top A-Level mathematicians in the country, is that really a reasonable definition of 'decent'? I'd say it more separates the excellent/brilliant from the very good.
I just want to echo what some others have said: if you think you'll find A Level Further Maths too difficult, why do you think you'll be able to cope with a university degree in Maths?
I don't quite agree with what you're saying here. It's taken by circa 2% of the top A-Level mathematicians in the country, is that really a reasonable definition of 'decent'? I'd say it more separates the excellent/brilliant from the very good.
Remember some people in the top 2% do not take STEP. I also tend to use the word excellent rarely and decent means A* in maths/further maths A level. Of the students of mine that took STEP the ones I call excellent all got two S grades in STEP.
Remember some people in the top 2% do not take STEP. I also tend to use the word excellent rarely and decent means A* in maths/further maths A level. Of the students of mine that took STEP the ones I call excellent all got two S grades in STEP.
Which ones wouldn't take STEP? A lot of people get A* in M/FM at A-Level, considerably more than the number of people who sit STEP, hence my questioning of why you'd label it as decent.
Also OP not sure if it has been mentioned, but I hope you also consider the benefits to you of learning further maths and physics.
It ain't a requirement at so many places for sh**s and giggles.
Fairly certain taking FM will make your life easier too in terms of learning harder mathematical concepts and being familiar with things that will be developed
I did Further Maths, years ago, yes. And then a degree in maths. The degree was a lot harder than the A Level. Like, a lot harder.
Edit: I don't mean to discourage you from doing a degree in maths but I think it is only fair to let you know that Further Maths A Level is less challenging than a degree in Maths (at most universities).
Which ones wouldn't take STEP? A lot of people get A* in M/FM at A-Level, considerably more than the number of people who sit STEP, hence my questioning of why you'd label it as decent.
Most do take STEP but not all.
I use the word decent as a higher classification than you do. Just like kids today throw around the word great at the drop of a hat. As I said, the students I have had that I consider excellent murdered STEP. As they should have, it isn't exactly difficult.
I use the word decent as a higher classification than you do. Just like kids today throw around the word great at the drop of a hat. As I said, the students I have had that I consider excellent murdered STEP. As they should have, it isn't exactly difficult.
My point is that you use the word decent as a higher classification than most people do, making your post slightly ill suited for general consumption unless caveated as such.
My point is that you use the word decent as a higher classification than most people do, making your post slightly ill suited for general consumption unless caveated as such.
Perhaps. But you are young, aren't you?
From just glancing at your posts I would think you are applying to both the university I attended and the one I am a prof. at.
I went to Trinity College, Cambridge as an undergraduate.
I just noticed you state on your profile you cannot sit STEP? Why? And I also notice you are not applying to Oxford.
Ah, okay. That's impressive.
It's a bit of an inside joke with my friends, don't take that part seriously, I will be sitting STEP. You cannot apply to both Oxford and Cambridge in the same admissions cycle, Cambridge was the obvious choice for me.