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Islam is the most discriminated alongside western culture.

Trust me, people can get warnings for less.

To be fair Hydeman, it was probably Mariachi because if you can see from the above, he takes offence at the term "idiot".

Does Hinduism call for the stoning of homosexuals and the murder of apostates? I'm a Hindu and I can tell you that the concept of apostasy doesn't exist in Hinduism because it's progressive enough to believe in religious pluralism.

Christianity, fair enough, it does mention certain things like you have mentioned. I'll give you that. There are countries that follow Islam and take some of their rules literally. Look at Saudi Arabia for yourself. Believes atheists to be terrorists, Hindus and Jews to be devil worshippers. Have stoned and whipped people. Have crucified teenagers for speaking about human rights. This is an Islamic country which takes Islam very seriously.


Can you think of a Christian country that does that?

The brutality in other countries is less to do with the faith Islam itself and more to do with corruption within the government, it does consist of people following Islam very strictly as well. Similar corruption is what drives ISIS, I'm not denying that they do follow Islam very strictly, but it's not the only factor - and therefore I think its unfair to blame all of Islam for the corruption of a smaller group of people relative to those causing the corruption.

You've had countless other people tell you the same thing as me.

Why can't it sink that to you that it's possible to like a person but not their faith?

no, it wasn't me, of course

in practice, I am just shamefully discriminating in favour of fully fledged, authentic "idiots". When I see the label applied with good reason, I let it pass. But I wouldn't use it, personally

Hey, nobody's perfect ...

completely wrong

you can criticise Islam and oppose it just like you can criticise and oppose Communism (or Nazism, or Scientology, or, for what matters, Liberalism or Catholicism , or Veganism etc)

ideologies can and should be criticised and blamed, if they advocate behaviour and actions which, in your opinion, would be negative for certain categories of people and for society as a whole

you can fight violent, abhorrent "sacred texts" by exposing them, showing how they can inspire people to commit crimes, even if (and especially so) if you believe there is absolutely no "superior truth" embodied in them

with regard to religions, we could e.g. remember that "most evil persons are capable of committing horrible crimes, but to make good people commit horrible crimes, you need religion"

I would add also "or ideologies" to the above quote. For these reasons, I think that we should all criticise and oppose Islam (at least, until a serious reform is undertaken and completed)

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I'm sure there's an idiot science to determine that?

I'm yet to see a compilation of Sahih idiots

Yes, Islam can be criticised, but only theologically. You cannot say "OMG how brutal it is" about text which is written more then 1400 years ago. You cannot blame it. But you can blame those who incite people using such text. Muslim terrorists are criminals, murderers. And they should be considered as an organized criminal groups. It means that first of all should be found and punished their "godfathers". Dozens of crimes were committed by Muslim terrorists in the West. Who besides direct perpetrators was punished? If you start a war (and I suppose that today the world is in war with Muslim terrorism) you at the least should know who is your enemy. You should be able to name it. It's neither Islam and nor antique scripts. It's people.

Get the Fudge out of muslim countries and you will find peace

Islam is not the sole driver of terrorism and corruption, .

I hear ISIS have a good plan for peace...

ISIS have essentially killed themselves - they are fighting wars on three fronts and an ideological war against democracy, they pose a current immediate threat to Syria and Iraq and other countries, but in terms of completely taking over any countries, they have a very low chance.

The Quran/ahadith may be antique scripts, but Islam is not at all an antique religion. It is very much alive and active.

We are not talking about ISIS in Syria. The person I quoted said we will have peace once we leave the Middle East. As long as there exists sympathisers with ISIS and with the Islamist ideology in general, we are going to continue to have terrorist attacks on Western territory. Whether we have forces in the Middle East or not does not change the intentions of people with extremist interpretations of Islam.

How can you agree with forces being in the Middleeast and bombing, then the westerners trying to create peace and telling ISIS to get the **** out. Why the hypocrisy?

Why don't we withdraw our forces for our country, for europe, for innocent civilians getting killed for no reason. just because our politicians have material interests in Syria and elsewhere?

The russians withdrew when the ISIS told them that we have 60,000 chechen ISIS soldiers waiting to infiltrate your country and bomb the **** out of you. The russians withdrew.

Why let it get to that stage before we come out ? if the western armies were not in Syria neither would the refugees becoming to Europe and neither would any bombings be happening?