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Differentiating & Integrating Natural Logs

Hi guys I've gotten myself confused again.


If I integrate 12x+1dx\dfrac{1}{2x+1} dx

I get 1/2ln(2x+1)1/2ln(2x+1)

Because 12x+1\dfrac{1}{2x+1}

Is half of 22x+1\dfrac{2}{2x+1}

Which integrates to ln(2x+1)ln(2x+1)


But if I'm differentiating a natural log it follows this rule

ddxln(f(x))=f(x)f(x)\dfrac{d}{dx}ln(f(x)) = \dfrac{f'(x)}{f(x)}

So working backwards

ddx(1/2ln(2x+1))\dfrac{d}{dx}(1/2 ln(2x+1))

=1/2ddx(ln(2x+1))= 1/2 \dfrac{d}{dx}(ln(2x+1))

=12x+1= \dfrac{1}{2x+1}


But we're told that:

alog(x)=log(xa)a*log(x) = log(x^a)

So why isn't

ddx(1/2ln(2x+1))=ddx(ln2x+1)\dfrac{d}{dx}(1/2ln(2x+1)) = \dfrac{d}{dx}(ln\sqrt{2x+1})


I'm really confused
Reply 1
Original post by Retsek

But we're told that:

alog(x)=log(xa)a*log(x) = log(x^a)

So why isn't

ddx(1/2ln(2x+1))=ddx(ln2x+1)\dfrac{d}{dx}(1/2ln(2x+1)) = \dfrac{d}{dx}(ln\sqrt{2x+1})


I'm really confused

Why do you think it's not?

Have you tried differentiating ln2x+1\ln\sqrt{2x+1}? What did you get?
Original post by Retsek

So why isn't

ddx(1/2ln(2x+1))=ddx(ln2x+1)\dfrac{d}{dx}(1/2ln(2x+1)) = \dfrac{d}{dx}(ln\sqrt{2x+1})


I'm really confused


It is...?

Just use the u-sub u=2x+1u=\sqrt{2x+1} to differentiate ln2x+1\ln \sqrt{2x+1}. This gives 1u(2x+1)1/2=12x+1\dfrac{1}{u} \cdot (2x+1)^{-1/2} = \dfrac{1}{2x+1} - but the alternative is clearly neater.
Reply 3
Original post by Notnek
Why do you think it's not?

Have you tried differentiating ln2x+1\ln\sqrt{2x+1}? What did you get?


Original post by RDKGames
It is...?

Just use the u-sub u=2x+1u=\sqrt{2x+1} to differentiate ln2x+1\ln \sqrt{2x+1}. This gives 1u(2x+1)1/2=12x+1\dfrac{1}{u} \cdot (2x+1)^{-1/2} = \dfrac{1}{2x+1} - but the alternative is clearly neater.


Okay I've found the problem, I'm as dumb as a box of rocks

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