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Although perhaps it's better to follow what I say and not what I do.

A quick calculation gives

Shoes: Church's Oxfords, Prada lace-ups - ~ 800
Suits: 1 Zegna + 1 Gieves & Hawkes - ~2300
Watch - Omega Speedmaster, Brietling Navitimer ~5500
Shirts: G&H, Thomas Pink, H&H, ~800
Ties: 10 x Hermes, Thomas Pink, Zegna, G&H ~1200

These were mostly gifts, or otherwise purchased before starting, and, of course, none of it is necessary.
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Original post by Meriwether
Although perhaps it's better to follow what I say and not what I do.

A quick calculation gives

Shoes: Church's Oxfords, Prada lace-ups - ~ 800
Suits: 1 Zegna + 1 Gieves & Hawkes - ~2300
Watch - Omega Speedmaster, Brietling Navitimer ~5500
Shirts: G&H, Thomas Pink, H&H, ~800
Ties: 10 x Hermes, Thomas Pink, Zegna, G&H ~1200

Mostly gifts, or otherwise purchased before starting.

Of course, none of it is necessary.


Belts. Cufflinks. Coats. Perhaps a bag or a nice umbrella... or whatever personal extra touches...


I strictly think that cheap is not optimal.
Reply 1062
Original post by President_Ben
Belts. Cufflinks. Coats. Perhaps a bag or a nice umbrella... or whatever personal extra touches...


I strictly think that cheap is not optimal.


Im going for a lovely umbrella over coat option what with the climate of SE Asia, any suggestions mate? :smile: Ps, Milan is ridiculous on the first day of sales.. Ferragamo have a stupidly good sale on. 77 EUR a tie.. Tod's bags everywhere, queues of 50 strong just to get into the joint. The italians are crazy.
(edited 13 years ago)
Original post by JakeF
Im going for a lovely umbrella over coat option what with the climate of SE Asia, any suggestions mate? :smile: Ps, Milan is ridiculous on the first day of sales.. Ferragamo have a stupidly good sale on. 77 EUR a tie..


If I didn't have three ties from there that I rarely wear... :smile:

Jeffery West, known for shoes, have had a couple very cool umbrellas. Probably over the top. Giant metallic cobra or devil heads for the handle.

James Smith and Sons is the the classic.

I'm really not an umbrella person.
Reply 1064
Original post by President_Ben
If I didn't have three ties from there that I rarely wear... :smile:

Jeffery West, known for shoes, have had a couple very cool umbrellas. Probably over the top. Giant metallic cobra or devil heads for the handle.

James Smith and Sons is the the classic.

I'm really not an umbrella person.


I don't think I'd ever spend proper money on an umbrella. I always lose them. It just seems inefficient.
In Singapore, rain showers are heavy and frequent. An umbrella will protect against water damage to your suit and is more comfortable than donning a coat (given the climate).

That said, I'm not particularly attracted to them. I have a big, pink Linklaters one and that serves me just fine.
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If I was going for an umbrella, I'd get one of these.

http://www.firebox.com/product/1989/Senz-Stealth-Umbrella
Reply 1067
Umbrellas now? wow this thread has become useless. none of this is a reflection of an analyst wardrobe.
As I mentioned, this thread never needed to be this long. Everything can be covered in a single, concise post- as yours was.

For what it's worth, I think what you said represents the minimum one should own, practically. The upper end is boundless. That others are in different situations - geographies, roles, group/team cultures- also complicates things a little.
Reply 1069
Original post by jakezg
Umbrellas now? wow this thread has become useless. none of this is a reflection of an analyst wardrobe.


No, but that doesn't make it useless. Someone should just change the title to "Bankers clothing thread" or something.

Original post by President_Ben
If I was going for an umbrella, I'd get one of these.

http://www.firebox.com/product/1989/Senz-Stealth-Umbrella


Apparently it's not actually very good in the wind, it's main purpose.
Original post by Drogue

Apparently it's not actually very good in the wind, it's main purpose.


Link?
Reply 1071
Original post by Meriwether

Suits: 1 Zegna + 1 Gieves & Hawkes - ~2300


I assume that 2300 quid is for both correct?

That should leave not more than 1400/1500 for the Zegna suit: where did you shoot it for such a good price?
Reply 1072
Original post by President_Ben
Link?


Comments on the page you linked. I was tempted with it, but ended up going for the Samurai one, as it looks great fun even when you're not using it (it looks like a samurai sword in a sheath).
You don't get a good umbrella for less than 1000 pounds. Noobs.
Reply 1074
I'm upset by the lack of cardigans in this thread. Conformists.
Reply 1075
Original post by Chewwy
I'm upset by the lack of cardigans in this thread. Conformists.


Cardigans are for GPs, no..? :tongue:
Reply 1076
Jaeger had ties in the sale for 10 quid down from 50, which I thought was pretty good value and picked up a few.
Original post by pauln182
Lol. What's with all the 10K plus quotes for stuff?!? I don't recall anyone in their 2nd years dropping 10K plus on clothes. Some 1st years did - but typically they realised no one cared about that stuff by the 2nd wardrobe update.

I reckon you can set up your initial wardrobe for around 1-2k (or less) dependent on how much you want to spend. It's about how the clothes look on you, not the brand.

Moreover, in reality, first years are the newbies at the firm. It doesn't matter how sharp your suit is, you look 21!! That means you don't have any real work or content experience behind you and so you can't really do anything! Since everyone (clients and colleagues) can see this, no one is expecting much other than for you to work hard, aim to learn lots, do the rubbish 'cut your teeth' jobs and follow the rules.


MY VIEW ON WARDROBES - LOOK PROFESSIONAL, BUT YOU'RE NOT AT GUCCI. IN FACT, THE ONLY MODELLING WE DO IS BUILDING EXCEL MODELS!
Watch - analogues only (digital is just very studenty). If you don't want to shell out for a decent one (I'm thinking 0.7K - 1K, not 5k!) then just don't bother with it.

Suits - 3 is fine. Paul Smith at 700 quid is good, but then so is every other brand out there pretty much. All that matters is that it doesn't look cheap and that it sits well on you. I personally found a great way to waste money was to buy mid-market (e.g. Calvin Klein). They tend to be of the worst materials. Either splash out on a high-end brand or buy something cheap that looks good (believe it or not, even Debenhams gets the job done). Also, you don't need to buy all 3 at once. 2 initially is fine (just make sure they're reasonably non-descript) then buy the 3rd later when you find a good deal.

Shirts - no one cares, you can barely see the shirt under the suit anyway. TM Lewin / Hawes and Curtis get the job done, but so does M&S. Say 7 shirts at 30-50 quid each. Once again - it's about the cut, not the brand. The only key point is to make sure your shirts are primarily whites and blues (possibly with a pink and avoid yellows unless its just the shirt lines that are yellow)

Ties - nice ties are important. You can buy 'nice' ones for between 30-50 quid. The only reason they're important is that the material quality is most evident on ties - and the label is more likely to show. Dependent on your role you may never have need for them though. So maybe you only need 2-3 in some jobs.

Shoes - 1 pair to start you off is fine. Think 100-150quid. Check the soles of the shoes have a good grip, else you'll slip on the ibank floor and look like a pr1ck. Some also have the clacking noise of high heels - that's not good

The key thing is to remember who you are - you are a 1st year and you can't do anything yet. Sorry if this bursts the high-end glamour illusion of banking that first years sometimes mistakenly perceive. Banking is a knowledge industry - and all your academic knowledge is broadly useless in the job. If you want to nail the job, you need to work hard and make sure your output is top-notch. Maintain a PROFESSIONAL image (e.g. no black shirts) since that's a required and expected minimum, but don't start dropping all your hard earned cash trying to look like the dog's b0llocks. No one cares and rucking up in your 5K get-up just tends to be perceived by your seniors as sweetly naive!


I wanted to ask you a question about your Calvin Klein comment. How bad is the quality of material? I picked up a mid-grey three button for 100 from 400 in the sale but am not bowled over by it. It is 100% wool though. It makes me look too mature for 19...

One comment in general to everyone in the thread, why is black such a faux pas for suits? I get the funeral/doorman vibe but you wouldn't be wearing a black tie and white shirt like in those situations. I found it incredibly surprising that black suits are such deal-breakers! So if navy/grey charcoal is the way to go, how light a grey can it be? Would light grey give off too much of a river island/topman vibe?
Reply 1078
Original post by Favourite Worst Nightmare
I wanted to ask you a question about your Calvin Klein comment. How bad is the quality of material? I picked up a mid-grey three button for 100 from 400 in the sale but am not bowled over by it. It is 100% wool though. It makes me look too mature for 19...

One comment in general to everyone in the thread, why is black such a faux pas for suits? I get the funeral/doorman vibe but you wouldn't be wearing a black tie and white shirt like in those situations. I found it incredibly surprising that black suits are such deal-breakers! So if navy/grey charcoal is the way to go, how light a grey can it be? Would light grey give off too much of a river island/topman vibe?


Lighter grey than charcoal is fine. Especially during summer months. Just nothing pale grey like this tool
Reply 1079
Original post by Nimiza
Lighter grey than charcoal is fine. Especially during summer months. Just nothing pale grey like this tool


That is a bit crap, but light grey can work well: http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.php?p=2419339&postcount=9

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