Israel

Palestinians do agree to the road map, the leadership CANNOT act against terror as the people of palestine support the organisations, as their security forces are in ruins due to israeli attacks and as the head of palestine is under house arrest . Many people dont want Israel to exist - I dont want Israel to exist but I think we all accept the fact that it has to exist -


hamas and arafat dont. their 'security forces', which ones would they be?



so why turn down Bahrak and Sharon when they make these offers? why did Hamas leaders continue to plot and remain active when their part of the deal was to disarm and to be arrested?

I don't know really. I would assume Palestine is developed, but I wouldn't know.

Richer than most arab states that aren't oil-rich. Still, the Zionist's right to be there is far more significant than the Palestinian's.

I agree very much. Sort out the Israeli's and save the Palestinian's. Simple. The catch is its never going to happen.

I don't know really. I would assume Palestine is developed, but I wouldn't know.

Because it is actually relevant and interesting.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA that was REALLLLY funny .. . Are you like REALLLLLY stupid ?

please do explain why iraq was a threat to any american city you care to name? most of countries ie poland supported america so they could get more trade eg american misslies

Yes I agree too - we really should just work for peace, but you have to understand what happened in order to understand the issue - though I dont think that history so long ago can be used as an argument that the land should go to israel.

Please, keep this to a civilised debate.

*sigh* you dont understand the concept of american national interest, the terrorist acquistion of WMDs or the fact the Poland understand first hand the threat from rogue states?

some of us find it easier than others.

Youll have to thank the Bus bombers for that.
Ummm .. I dont think the bus bombers have anything to do with my dad getting interrogated and treated like a criminal - its not a justification.

*sigh* you dont understand the concept of american national interest, the terrorist acquistion of WMDs or the fact the Poland understand first hand the threat from rogue states?

something like 15 states out of 140 in the world supported the US, most of them to get financial support . That is not a majority. The US cannot attack a country because they have WMDs - which they didnt - they attacked as iraq is oil rich, second in the world. Anyway, this thread is about Israel - palestine so lets keep it to that

no i obviously dont, instead of patronising me i was hoping you might be able to explain it to me. how were any american cities under a direct treat from iraq?

Bush is the only president to recognise the 2-state proposals.
his criticisms of Israel and peace efforts are relatively unparalled among former US heads of state.
The IMF report "Economic Performance and Reforms under Conflict Conditions," released last September in Abu Dhabi, was based on the same PA documents that the Israeli government had earlier provided to Patten and the European Parliament. The report concludes that at least 8 percent ($135 million) of the PA's annual budget of $1.08 billion is being spent by Arafat at his sole discretion — and does not even take into account Arafat's control of 60 percent of the security-apparatus budget, which leaves him with at least $360 million per year to spend as he chooses. In addition, the report states that $900 million in PA revenues "disappeared" between 1995 and 2000, and that the 2003 budget for Arafat's office, which totaled $74 million, was missing $34 million that Arafat had transferred to pay unidentified "organizations" and "individuals."

this evidence was based on isreali intelligence, gonna be unbias then. 2ndly no terror groups are mentioned in that report. in retort i would like to also provide some evidence
http://www.hrw.org/press/2001/02/isr-pa-0221.htm

Well, that must make me the only person alive (or at least on ULK) who actually couldn't give two hoots about Palestine or Israel, or for that matter, the people who reside there, rightfully or wrongfully.

Hmm, apparently Israel certainly is developed but Palestine isn't.

Perhaps the more developed country should lead the way to peace. I guess it's trying to right now from what you've been saying.