The al shifa hospital has been proven to be a major hamas hub of operation with weapons and tunnels being found. If you want to talk about people being easily offended, how about you research the recent m&s advert scandal, or how people rip down posters of Israeli hostages, including posters of children. The anti Israel side are much more guilty of posting AI images. Israeli ai images trend to be of people celebrating Israel, whereas anti Israel ai images trend to be fake deaths. And if you want to talk about faking then let's talk about the video of the child in the body bag in gaza who was somehow moving despite the fact he was supposed to be dead. Israel cut off all supplies to gaza, as these supplies come in on the condition that hamas behave. With the hundreds of millions they earn, and the billions their leaders have, they could have made their own energy and water systems, but they spent it all on bombs instead. If you want to talk about thinking of civilians, why have 15,000 gazans been killed and not all of them? It's because Israel puts in effort to preserve civilian life. If the Israelis did not ensure civilians were clear of areas being bombed, near a million would be dead. Israel's tactics to minimise civilian death has resulted in hundreds of thousands of lives being saved. Therefore the death of gazans is not genocide, it's collateral damage from a war. Don't start on Israel for the rights of civilians, if hamas cared about them they wouldn't have committed the October 7th massacre, as they fully well knew that Israel would destroy them. I welcome you to come to Israel and see where humanity really is, I'll give you a clue,*not*with*hamas.
Always with the whataboutism. So your basically telling me you want that child in the bag to be dead, just because he was "supposed to be dead" because at the end of the day that is what fits your agenda . Quite sick to me, and anyone else with an ounce of humanity. Calling the deaths of thousands "collateral damage from war" is unbelievable. If the roles were reversed would your views really be the same? . I wonder if you heard Israeli Prime Minister spokesperson Tal Heinrich saying “Israel is not targeting anyone but civilians” and Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson saying “Israel has the right to commit genocide”. That does not sound like an effort to preserve civilian life to me. Humanity is positively not with Israel, I tell you that. You said "The al shifa hospital has been proven to be a major hamas hub of operation with weapons and tunnels being found". Did I not just tell you about the whole calendar debacle, which is frankly embarrassing and I'd love to hear your justification for that. Plus bombing the entire hospital with thousands of injured civilians is absolutely unforgivable. I can't believe I even have to say that. Do you feel nothing at the prospect of the already direly injured being bombed further. Newborn babies without oxygen. Explain how the "from the river to the sea" chant is anti- semitic, because that is reaching beyond belief. Explain Joe Biden's famous line from 1986: “If there were not an Israel, we’d have to invent one.”
Always with the whataboutism. So your basically telling me you want that child in the bag to be dead, just because he was "supposed to be dead" because at the end of the day that is what fits your agenda . Quite sick to me, and anyone else with an ounce of humanity. Calling the deaths of thousands "collateral damage from war" is unbelievable. If the roles were reversed would your views really be the same? . I wonder if you heard Israeli Prime Minister spokesperson Tal Heinrich saying “Israel is not targeting anyone but civilians” and Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson saying “Israel has the right to commit genocide”. That does not sound like an effort to preserve civilian life to me. Humanity is positively not with Israel, I tell you that. You said "The al shifa hospital has been proven to be a major hamas hub of operation with weapons and tunnels being found". Did I not just tell you about the whole calendar debacle, which is frankly embarrassing and I'd love to hear your justification for that. Plus bombing the entire hospital with thousands of injured civilians is absolutely unforgivable. I can't believe I even have to say that. Do you feel nothing at the prospect of the already direly injured being bombed further. Newborn babies without oxygen. Explain how the "from the river to the sea" chant is anti- semitic, because that is reaching beyond belief. Explain Joe Biden's famous line from 1986: “If there were not an Israel, we’d have to invent one.”
That's absolutely corrupt to claim that I want children dead. The way that you lot twist words is unbelievable. If you don't want me to make the same claim about you I suggest you quickly condemn Hamas's murder and kidnap of children on October 7. The reason I highlighted that one moment was to oppose your claim that Israel were the ones faking and using AI, to show you that your side is much more guilty of it than Israel. You claim that I use whataboutism, however I'm not, I'm showing you that everything that you claim that the Israelis do, actually comes from your sides lack of accountability. Saying 'if the roles were reversed' actually seems like whataboutism to me. Have some self awareness. Once again I urge you to appreciate how many hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved by Israel's measures to preserve civilian life, and even then netanyahu has still said that Israel has not fully carried out it's duty to protect Gazan civilians. What more proof do you want of Israel's measures. Tal Heinrich is a news reporter from America, not netanyahus spokesperson, don't be so stupid and believe everything you see, and what has the Swedish PM got to do with anything? He has nothing to do with Israel, you're grasping at straws. The whole calendar thing was ONE slip up, that doesn't nullify everything that goes on in the hospital. And if for one second you think my heart doesn't ache for all the innocent gazan civilians being killed and injured you are wrong, but don't pretend it happened in a vacuum. I don't know how you would interpret Joe bidens phrase in a negative way, he could be talking about the safety of Jews or the flourishing economy, but because of your warped views you instantly think he wants to kill Arabs. Please respond to all my claims like I*did*with*yours.
Once again I urge you to appreciate how many hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved by Israel's measures to preserve civilian life
This is a bit of a stretch, even by the standards of this thread. We've got documented evidence of Israel bombing areas designated for refugee evacations, killing journalists and their families, bombing fishing boats and more recently libraries. It's perfectly understandable that folks are not going to express gratitude about the the numbers of people who have been fortunate enough to not yet be bombed out of existance. It's hardly been a subtle or proportionate response.
That's absolutely corrupt to claim that I want children dead. The way that you lot twist words is unbelievable. If you don't want me to make the same claim about you I suggest you quickly condemn Hamas's murder and kidnap of children on October 7. The reason I highlighted that one moment was to oppose your claim that Israel were the ones faking and using AI, to show you that your side is much more guilty of it than Israel. You claim that I use whataboutism, however I'm not, I'm showing you that everything that you claim that the Israelis do, actually comes from your sides lack of accountability. Saying 'if the roles were reversed' actually seems like whataboutism to me. Have some self awareness. Once again I urge you to appreciate how many hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved by Israel's measures to preserve civilian life, and even then netanyahu has still said that Israel has not fully carried out it's duty to protect Gazan civilians. What more proof do you want of Israel's measures. Tal Heinrich is a news reporter from America, not netanyahus spokesperson, don't be so stupid and believe everything you see, and what has the Swedish PM got to do with anything? He has nothing to do with Israel, you're grasping at straws. The whole calendar thing was ONE slip up, that doesn't nullify everything that goes on in the hospital. And if for one second you think my heart doesn't ache for all the innocent gazan civilians being killed and injured you are wrong, but don't pretend it happened in a vacuum. I don't know how you would interpret Joe bidens phrase in a negative way, he could be talking about the safety of Jews or the flourishing economy, but because of your warped views you instantly think he wants to kill Arabs. Please respond to all my claims like I*did*with*yours.
Then how come on the fox news channel she is labeled "Israeli government spokesperson". The blatant lies you are spewing are quite stupid, yet you call me that. Also even if I was wrong you still haven't justified what she said, you avoided it in fact. Also you too didn't respond to all of my claims, so don't attack me for the same. So what if the Swedish prime minister is supposedly irrelevant? He still said what he said and I'm not "grasping at straws" as there is a video of him saying those words. What do you mean the calendar thing was a slip up. Explain why it would be a slip up in the first place when the soldier is literally pointing at the calendar and claiming with chest that those are the names of Hamas militants. Also I wasn't twisting your words. Maybe don't phrase it like how you did with the wording of "supposed to be dead". Anyone would think you mean that. Saying "if the roles were reversed" was hardly whataboutism, more so a figure of speech. I don't need to justify myself to you. Also obviously I don't believe the kidnap and murder of children /people by Hamas is justifiable, it is indeed not.
Also Admit- One is right. There is hardly measures to preserve civilian life if hospitals, houses and places of worship are being bombed, all of which would undeniably contain civilians. The death of the innocent are not collateral damage as you said, labelling it as such is inhumane.
Statistics prove that there are way more Palestinian deaths than Israeli deaths, which in itself is an indicator that Israel is the aggressor.
This is a bit of a stretch, even by the standards of this thread. We've got documented evidence of Israel bombing areas designated for refugee evacations, killing journalists and their families, bombing fishing boats and more recently libraries. It's perfectly understandable that folks are not going to express gratitude about the the numbers of people who have been fortunate enough to not yet be bombed out of existance. It's hardly been a subtle or proportionate response.
Subtle and proportionate are not words used in war, what do you expect Israel to do otherwise? (Not rhetorical please answer). The deaths of all innocents are accidental, areas that are bombed are cleared by sending phone calls and text messages residents, these 'fishing boats' are illegal meaning it was legitimate to assume the people on board were terrorists. It's not about showing gratitude about numbers, it's about admitting that Israel is not committing*genocide
Then how come on the fox news channel she is labeled "Israeli government spokesperson". The blatant lies you are spewing are quite stupid, yet you call me that. Also even if I was wrong you still haven't justified what she said, you avoided it in fact. Also you too didn't respond to all of my claims, so don't attack me for the same. So what if the Swedish prime minister is supposedly irrelevant? He still said what he said and I'm not "grasping at straws" as there is a video of him saying those words. What do you mean the calendar thing was a slip up. Explain why it would be a slip up in the first place when the soldier is literally pointing at the calendar and claiming with chest that those are the names of Hamas militants. Also I wasn't twisting your words. Maybe don't phrase it like how you did with the wording of "supposed to be dead". Anyone would think you mean that. Saying "if the roles were reversed" was hardly whataboutism, more so a figure of speech. I don't need to justify myself to you. Also obviously I don't believe the kidnap and murder of children /people by Hamas is justifiable, it is indeed not.
Also Admit- One is right. There is hardly measures to preserve civilian life if hospitals, houses and places of worship are being bombed, all of which would undeniably contain civilians. The death of the innocent are not collateral damage as you said, labelling it as such is inhumane.
Statistics prove that there are way more Palestinian deaths than Israeli deaths, which in itself is an indicator that Israel is the aggressor.
Goodness me. Tal Heinrich is the interviewer! She is interviewing an Israeli spokesperson, you've clearly taken a clip which shows just her accusing Israel of committing genocide. Either that or it is a broadcasting error which you have not researched properly. Admit your mistake. I don't need to justify what she said as she is the reporter with no connection to Israel. To do with the Swedish prime minister, I'm not denying he's saying what he said, I'm saying he is not relevant to the conflict one bit and therefore using him in an argument serves no use, and if it helps, I disagree with him, as Israel isn't committing genocide. Once again the calendar I don't see how the calendar error can make you ignore the terrorists activities in the hospital. The phrasing 'supposed to be dead ' is me referring to how the child was intended to be portrayed, you're selective thinking is really showing when you interpret me to mean otherwise. Also I appreciate your condemnation of Hamas's actions as so many on your side are unable to. When Israel bombs buildings they try their best to remove civilians from their buildings, sending text messages , phone calls and dropping leaflets by drone, all in Arabic , if Israel wasn't using these measures hundreds of thousands would have been killed, it's pretty obvious. The number of deaths does not have anything to do with who is the aggressor, hamas instigated this latest flare up of the conflict, Israel is more aggressive, it doesn't make it the aggressor. The words have different*meanings.
these 'fishing boats' are illegal meaning it was legitimate to assume the people on board were terrorists.
There wasn't anybody aboard. They were moored up overnight.
Thank heavens Israel blew them to smithreens so that Hamas couldn't enjoy a fish supper the next day. Hopefully they were terrorist-only boats, and the civilian ones were further down the shore.
Goodness me. Tal Heinrich is the interviewer! She is interviewing an Israeli spokesperson, you've clearly taken a clip which shows just her accusing Israel of committing genocide. Either that or it is a broadcasting error which you have not researched properly. Admit your mistake. I don't need to justify what she said as she is the reporter with no connection to Israel. To do with the Swedish prime minister, I'm not denying he's saying what he said, I'm saying he is not relevant to the conflict one bit and therefore using him in an argument serves no use, and if it helps, I disagree with him, as Israel isn't committing genocide. Once again the calendar I don't see how the calendar error can make you ignore the terrorists activities in the hospital. The phrasing 'supposed to be dead ' is me referring to how the child was intended to be portrayed, you're selective thinking is really showing when you interpret me to mean otherwise. Also I appreciate your condemnation of Hamas's actions as so many on your side are unable to. When Israel bombs buildings they try their best to remove civilians from their buildings, sending text messages , phone calls and dropping leaflets by drone, all in Arabic , if Israel wasn't using these measures hundreds of thousands would have been killed, it's pretty obvious. The number of deaths does not have anything to do with who is the aggressor, hamas instigated this latest flare up of the conflict, Israel is more aggressive, it doesn't make it the aggressor. The words have different*meanings.
allisrael.com states that Heinrich is Netanyahu's spokeswoman, as stated in an article published on October 29th 2023, as well as Foxnews.com stating "Tal Heinrich, spokesperson for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu" in an article published October 25th 2023.So yes, she indeed does have ties to Israel. I would admit if I was wrong, something you clearly can't do, as I just proved what you said was wrong once again. Also she still said that. It literally isn't a broadcasting error, she isn't on Palestine's side so why would she say that on behalf of them, that makes zero sense. She said what she said and just admit it. It's called a Freudian slip, and everyone knows it so you trying to convince me of something else ridiculous isn't gonna work. So what if the Swedish prime minister has no connections to Israel, he is still a public figure with influence over an entire country. It seems like your trying so hard to convince yourself by making up excuse after excuse that these instances are fake or there is another reason for them, it just is what it is and you should to take it at face value and accept the fact that Israel is indeed the aggressor, not just aggressive as you claim.
How are you going to defend the side of the aggressor when they are bombing Palestine, a country without an army, navy or air force. All of which Israel have.
Also you mentioned that they try their best to remove civilians from buildings by sending text messages, phone calls and leaflets but let me remind you of the recent bombardment by the IDF in which they did inform civilians, but proceeded to bomb the area where 1 million people were supposed to flee from and blockading any other exits ie the Rafah crossing connecting the Gaza strip and Egypt. How can that be justified at all. Even when they try to leave they are bombed. Clearly you haven't done your research.