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Binomial Expansion is simple till this question...

the coefficient of x^2 in the binomial expansion of (1+x/2)^n, where n is a positive integer, is 7.

Find the value of n

Okay so I can do things like (1+x/2)^4 etc but this is quite tricky. I tried to look on yahoo answers but it was talking in terms of summation and I don't know what that is.

We've been taught to do factorials on the calculator and I just self taught myself the formula: nCr, I'm guessing I should substitute the n in it and then replace the r with 0 1 2 but it doesn't work out.

Please could the mathematicians on TSR help me.

Thanks :smile:

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Reply 1
What formula are you using for the binomial expansion? There are (at least) two versions commonly used, and for this problem it makes a difference.
Reply 2
Original post by Mr Gum
What formula are you using for the binomial expansion? There are (at least) two versions commonly used, and for this problem it makes a difference.


if the question is (2+x/5)^10

we set it out like this:

1(2)^10
10(2)^9(x/5)
....
...

We haven't really learnt a formula just been taught how to do factorials on the calculator but I just taught myself this formula: nCr= n!/ (n-r)! r!
Reply 3
If you know n!(nr)!r!\dfrac{n!}{(n-r)!r!} I am not sure why you cannot do the question

Do you know what n!(nr)!\dfrac{n!}{(n-r)!} cancels down to
Reply 4
Original post by TenOfThem
If you know n!(nr)!r!\dfrac{n!}{(n-r)!r!} I am not sure why you cannot do the question

Do you know what n!(nr)!\dfrac{n!}{(n-r)!} cancels down to


no :colondollar:
Reply 5
Do you know what n! means?
Reply 6
Original post by Roshniroxy
if the question is (2+x/5)^10

we set it out like this:

1(2)^10
10(2)^9(x/5)
....
...

We haven't really learnt a formula just been taught how to do factorials on the calculator but I just taught myself this formula: nCr= n!/ (n-r)! r!


So what does the x2x^2 term of (1+x/2)^n look like when you do it this way?
Reply 7
Original post by TenOfThem
Do you know what n! means?


n multiplied by the previous numbers, like 3! is 3*2*1. So would i do n*n-1*n-2 ?
Reply 8
Original post by Mr Gum
So what does the x2x^2 term of (1+x/2)^n look like when you do it this way?


this is what i've come up with:

1(1)^n=1n
n(1)^n-1(-3/2x)=n^n-1* -3/2x
?(1)^n-2(-3/2x)^2= ?

question mark because I tried using the formula to find nC2 and I got this n!/(n-2) 2! but I didn't know how to derive an answer
Reply 9
So if n! = n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)(n-4)........... etc

What would (n-2)! be and what would be left if you cancelled
Reply 10
Original post by TenOfThem
So if n! = n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)(n-4)........... etc

What would (n-2)! be and what would be left if you cancelled


hmmm I think we'll have to write it out like this then:

n!/(n-2)! 2!= n(n-1)(n-2)...(n-n)/ (n-2)(n-1)* 2

Right or wrong ?
Reply 11
Original post by Roshniroxy
this is what i've come up with:

1(1)^n=1n
n(1)^n-1(-3/2x)=n^n-1* -3/2x
?(1)^n-2(-3/2x)^2= ?

question mark because I tried using the formula to find nC2 and I got this n!/(n-2) 2! but I didn't know how to derive an answer


So far so good, and this is what TenOfThem has been addressing. You really do need to spot the pattern of the cancelling. (n-2)! gives all the factors of n! except for two factors - (what two factors?) - and these are all that is left in the numerator after(n-2)! is cancelled from top and bottom.
Original post by Roshniroxy
hmmm I think we'll have to write it out like this then:

n!/(n-2)! 2!= n(n-1)(n-2)...(n-n)/ (n-2)(n-1)* 2

Right or wrong ?


I am asking what you have left if you do n!(n2)!\dfrac{n!}{(n-2)!}

or what do you get if you do (n)(n1)(n2)(n3).....(n2)(n3)......\dfrac{(n)(n-1)(n-2)(n-3).....}{(n-2)(n-3)......}
Reply 13
Original post by TenOfThem
I am asking what you have left if you do n!(n2)!\dfrac{n!}{(n-2)!}

or what do you get if you do (n)(n1)(n2)(n3).....(n2)(n3)......\dfrac{(n)(n-1)(n-2)(n-3).....}{(n-2)(n-3)......}


n(n-1)
OK

So n!(n2)!2!=n(n1)2!\dfrac{n!}{(n-2)!2!} = \dfrac{n(n-1)}{2!}

and there you are
Reply 15
Original post by TenOfThem
I am asking what you have left if you do n!(n2)!\dfrac{n!}{(n-2)!}

or what do you get if you do (n)(n1)(n2)(n3).....(n2)(n3)......\dfrac{(n)(n-1)(n-2)(n-3).....}{(n-2)(n-3)......}



Original post by Mr Gum
So far so good, and this is what TenOfThem has been addressing. You really do need to spot the pattern of the cancelling. (n-2)! gives all the factors of n! except for two factors - (what two factors?) - and these are all that is left in the numerator after(n-2)! is cancelled from top and bottom.


I get it !

(1+x/2)^n

1(1)^n=1^n
n(1)^n-1(x/2)=n^n-1*x/2
n(n-1)/2* (1)^n-2(x/2)^2= .....n^2-n/8

then I make n^2-n/8 = 7 and rearrange right ?
Reply 16
Original post by TenOfThem


Original post by Mr Gum


Both of you are the best ! Thanks for your patience and step by step directions, I understand it, yippeee :biggrin:
:biggrin:
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Reply 19
Do you get n=8, just to check if I've done it right? :smile:

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