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Reply 40
Original post by clh_hilary
How is that racist?

well that's pretty much how racism works isn't it, you say that terrorism is the doing of a certain religion or a certain country when in fact that's not the case at all.
Reply 41
Original post by studentegy1
Ok first of all i'm not lying those who march the streets are thousands not hundreds and they are in many cities in Egypt
Second of all Rabia is not a MB sign it is a sign that you are against the massacre that happened in Rabia
thirdly what consequences are you talking about?, you make it sound like the boy killed or stole or something, he was peacefully protesting, in what respectable country are there consequences for doing something like that?!!
And why do you insist on making this conversation a religious one, this is about humanity not religion


You said thousands were killed, this is not true hundreds were (still an awful figure so there is no need to exaggerate)

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dawn-perlmutter/a-new-muslim-brotherhood-symbol-r4bia/

the consequence of pocking a dog with a stick.

quite a few and most of them are Muslim countries. I simply do not believe that if the MB had stayed in power the situation would be any better than it is now, in fact I along with most of the west believe the situation would be much worse.

This is about religion as it is about the MUSLIM brotherhood.

If you were here asking for support for people like Gamal Abdou Massoud, Bishoy Kame or Alber Saber you would have more luck.

Look I'll ask you a simple question

Do you support the Muslim brotherhood?
Original post by studentegy1
well that's pretty much how racism works isn't it, you say that terrorism is the doing of a certain religion or a certain country when in fact that's not the case at all.


Racist requires a race to be targeted at.
Reply 43
Original post by Old_Simon
Some of the worst enemies of our history have had freely elected or democratic governments. It is not the same thing.

I dont see why you view the overthrown government in prison, you make it sound like they dropped a nuclear bomb in your country?
And besides why would that prevent you from helping teenagers who are 16 or 17 to get out of prison?
Reply 44
Original post by student Egy
we didnt ask u"in particular" for ur support..we respect those who read and learn ..those who apreciate people souls..those who respect human rights..those who respect others' religions..those who are not "racists" (definitely that is not u AT ALL :smile: )for us we disrespect ignorants AND RACISTS
ps: our victory is inevitable..we just want it to be as soon as possible for those in prison...but when this day comes when w're victorious and mohanad is out and Islam is ruling the country again..I'll certainly send u a msg to assure u we haven't landed on a stoney ground :smile:


and there you go

I repeat ISLAM is not compatible with human rights. I respect Human rights that is why I am against the MB and Islam.

Islam is not a race it is a faith you can change this you can not change your race.

But this is why you will not have our support

'and Islam is ruling the country again'
(edited 10 years ago)
Reply 45
Original post by studentegy1
well that's pretty much how racism works isn't it, you say that terrorism is the doing of a certain religion or a certain country when in fact that's not the case at all.


No It's not how racism works

your choice in faith is your choice and you can change this.

you cannot change your race.
Original post by clh_hilary
How is that racist?


It's racist because all statements not in total support of the religion of Islam is racist. And probably sexist, xenophobic, heightist and most other ists.
Reply 47
Original post by clh_hilary
Racist requires a race to be targeted at.

ok fine call it islamophobia, call it being biased,call it being a fanatic, the exact definition of racism is controversial and i'm not here to discuss terminology I'm here because there are kids barely out of middle school who are in jail!
Reply 48
Original post by student Egy
we didnt ask u"in particular" for ur support..we respect those who read and learn ..those who apreciate people souls..those who respect human rights..those who respect others' religions..those who are not "racists" (definitely that is not u AT ALL :smile: )for us we disrespect ignorants AND RACISTS
ps: our victory is inevitable..we just want it to be as soon as possible for those in prison...but when this day comes when w're victorious and mohanad is out and Islam is ruling the country again..I'll certainly send u a msg to assure u we haven't landed on a stoney ground :smile:


And that's the petition blown out of the water. You just admitted that you support the Muslim Brotherhood's purpose/vision.
Maybe you'll be ready in another 20 years or so.

And fyi being blunt/harsh =/= ignorant/racist.
(edited 10 years ago)
The Muslim Brotherhood was democratically elected and undemocratic-ally overthrown. If the majority of Egyptians want them to rule why not support them if you'll care for democracy. If beacons of democracy do not support a group calling for democracy then its all hypocrisy. The Muslim Brotherhood was proved to be the Egyptian's choice - if they cannot take over Egypt democratically as democracy does not exist there currently what other way there is...

I can't stand the hypocrites in this thread!
Original post by studentegy1
ok fine call it islamophobia, call it being biased,call it being a fanatic, the exact definition of racism is controversial and i'm not here to discuss terminology I'm here because there are kids barely out of middle school who are in jail!


The exact definitions of racism and race may be controversial, but there's nothing controversial about islam not being a race or your ignorance on such matter.
Original post by No Man
And that's the petition blown out of the water.
Maybe you'll be ready in another 20 years or so.

We'll be ready soon :smile:
Original post by student Egy
we didnt ask u"in particular" for ur support..we respect those who read and learn ..those who apreciate people souls..those who respect human rights..those who respect others' religions..those who are not "racists" (definitely that is not u AT ALL :smile: )for us we disrespect ignorants AND RACISTS
ps: our victory is inevitable..we just want it to be as soon as possible for those in prison...but when this day comes when w're victorious and mohanad is out and Islam is ruling the country again..I'll certainly send u a msg to assure u we haven't landed on a stoney ground :smile:



Original post by Algorithm69
Oh dear. Here we have it ladies and gentlemen. The truth. You guys are Islamic scumbags after all.



Original post by PopaPork
and there you go

I repeat ISLAM is not compatible with human rights. I respect Human rights that is why I am against the MB and Islam.

Islam is not a race it is a faith you can change this you can not change your race.

But this is why you will not have our support

'and Islam is ruling the country again'



The majority of Egyptians wants that to happen. How did the Muslim Brotherhood win all the elections.

Its democracy that should be stood for. Democracy there wants Islam. So whats the problem?
Reply 53
Original post by RoyalBlue7
The Muslim Brotherhood was democratically elected and undemocratic-ally overthrown. If the majority of Egyptians want them to rule why not support them if you'll care for democracy. If beacons of democracy do not support a group calling for democracy then its all hypocrisy. The Muslim Brotherhood was proved to be the Egyptian's choice - if they cannot take over Egypt democratically as democracy does not exist there currently what other way there is...

I can't stand the hypocrites in this thread!


Hitler and Mugabe were also elected democratically. Does that mean nobody should have opposed the German and Zimbabwean decisions at the time because they were democratic?
(edited 10 years ago)
Reply 54
Frankly, I'm appalled by many of the comments here.

1. Everyone has the basic civil right of free speech. Whether it's a democrat, a muslim brotherhood member or a national socialist. They ALL have this right, even if you don't agree with their opinion.

"I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write." François-Marie Arouet (aka Voltaire)

2. Age does not factor into this. Should the boy's parents have kept him at home for his own safety? Yes, sure. Was it naive and stupid to go out there and face a known danger? Probably. But does that give any authority the right to detain this boy for no legal reason? Hell no!

I personally oppose the muslim brotherhood and do not agree with the TO on his views on Islam. It is a fact that in the majority of countries where is Islam is the predominant religion other religions are not treated with the respect that Islam enjoys in most countries where the majority is Christian.

But that does not have anything to do with the case he described (provided what he described is true)!
Original post by clh_hilary
It was a sarcastic response to a sarcastic response.


Okay it sounded complicated. I better don't circumvent. Don't trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.
Reply 56
Original post by RoyalBlue7
The majority of Egyptians wants that to happen. How did the Muslim Brotherhood win all the elections.

Its democracy that should be stood for. Democracy there wants Islam. So whats the problem?


Don;t believe his to be true

The initial protests had nothing to do with the MB they simply took advantage of the lack of organization with the liberal community.

Are the MB a democratic supporters or as they simply gong to use democracy to get in and stay in (remember the same was said about Palestinian elections expect 1 round of votes does not make a democracy)

and finally if what they truly want is an 'Islamic' country then they should really stop suckling of the teat of the west as we should not be supporting such governance
Original post by applicant2014
Okay it sounded complicated. I better don't circumvent. Don't trouble trouble until trouble troubles you.


You should be able to understand if you re-read the entire correspondence.
Original post by No Man
Hitler and Mugabe were also elected democratically. Does that mean nobody should have opposed the German and Zimbabwean decisions at the time because they were democratic?


Care to compare President Morsi with Mugabe and Hitler? :confused:

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Reply 59
Original post by No Man
Hitler and Mugabe were also elected democratically. Does that mean nobody should have opposed the German and Zimbabwean decisions at the time because they were democratic?


What by locking up the Hitler youth without tiral?

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