The Ultimate Football Thread

on the other hand a great team shouldnt lose 4-0 to d.coruna (ac milan)...in this sense i would say Deportivo is better than ac milan

But in reference to your sig, numerous teams have a better track record in Europe than Arsenal anyway, hence your analogy about "It's consistency over the period that counts" doesn't back up the statement in your sig regarding Arsenal's position in Europe i.e.) They aren't the best, whether it be track record over recent years or just one season alone.

chelsea won't win the champions league... monaco will

But that list is meaningless, as it places a far greater weighting on teams like Juventus and United who have done ok in the champions league, placing them above liverpool who have won it more times than ll but 2 of the top 10.

They've played many more games due to the bloated champions league format, but we've won the damn thing more times so surley that should count for more!

Well if it"s all the same to you I think we'll just keep our 4 European cups and you an keep your spot on a meaningless UEFA list. To say 'if you were so good' is just stupid, we were the best team in Europe for years but back then the competition wasn't bloated as it is now, funneling the top teams towards the latter stages every year. And if you got beaten 8-3 you wouldn't be in the semi-finals!

No, I mean the competition was more unpredictable with all the teams in it capable of causeing an upset. Anyway, soon the past is all we'll have left if Houllier has another season

Who do you support, out of interest

The argument that previous season's form be taken into account when deciding how good a team is is ludicrous. Players and teams change continually. Leeds must be one of the top teams in Europe as they got to the semis a few years ago. What if Real Madrid sold all of their 'stars' and started playing with their youth team? Would they still be a good team then? They would have to be if taking into account past form. Non sequitur indeed.

Not in Arsenal's case. The backbone of their team has been together for several years and it is this conyinuity which is the main factor behind their success in the Premiership. Their only major last summer was to replace a dogy goalkeeper with an even dodgier one with a bad temper and attitude.

i want gunners to get Robinson or someone promising like that - and if not a young one then one that can speak english - lehmann isnt bad just a bit unlucky at times

i want gunners to get Robinson or someone promising like that - and if not a young one then one that can speak english - lehmann isnt bad just a bit unlucky at times

unlucky!?! he's a psycho! did you see what he did to ronaldo in the semi-final? arsenal were interested in niemi werent they?

Percy I don't recall anyone ever saying anyone was the "best team in the history of the world". In fact quite the opposite as Pig and Kuz were stating how they were only taking this season into account yet Bono refused to let past seasons results cloud his (vague and misguided) judgement.