Christians? Annoying? - I think so.

It is a human creation though whether they believe that or not

Sure, he was supposedly the son of God but that's hardly his message. I agree with the original poster - his message was a humanist one of "good will to all".

you put forward the idea you believed in science and i am mearly saying that science is not fallable as I have shown, so just be carefull about adopting and trying to stand up for a whole belief system, there are always going to be dodgy bits and you would of been better for saying something like "i believe is science is more likely to have the answers" rather than "science has the answers"

then you aren't an athiest, since someone who is an athiest believes God does not exist and can't.

then you aren't an athiest, since someone who is an athiest believes God does not exist and can't.

Most atheists will accept that there is a possibility that god exists in the sense that they don't believe in him but no one can ever be 100% sure they are correct. Athiests by definition don't believe in God but that doesn't mean that they are closed minded. Many of my athiest friends would believe in god if someone came up with some evidence.

Now don't take this the wrong way I don't mean all Christians I mean the minority.

How does "have you seen any annoying Christians?" equate to all Christians being annoying.

surely that is an agnostic view you describe in the opening sentance, if not could you please describe how you differentiate between the two.

An agnostic is someone who isn't sure wether there is a god or not I believe and an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in god but most will allow for the possibility that they COULD be wronge in that belief, but as far as they feel there is no god.

I suppose the appropiate question is whether someone who was religious believes there is the possiblity that God doesnt exist?

I have a friend who goes to church every week and is involved in all things to do with the church choir, helping at sunday school ect but isn't sure if god exists.

The 'God cannot be disproved' argument is true but NOT for context in which it is often used. The God which cannot be disproved (or proved) is the creator deity, one who is assumed to have created the universe - AND NOTHING MORE. The argument bears no relation to the Christian God with all its extra bells trumpets and trinkets added on which is disproved by simple logic and common sense through the contradictory nature of its own attributes.

yeah i see that, a christain god doesnt make that much sense at all

I think that Christening a child at Birth should be banned.

It gives no choice, before the baby is one they have ties with the church.

Aye, and neither does mankind if you continue down that route - but we're still here.

I agree with you, it is very imposive. However, if the child grows up to abandon religion, then for them the ritual of baptism will stand for nothing anyway. Child gets dipped in water, some words said, it only has symbolic significance to a person of the Christian faith.
I know several people who think this way, they have been baptised but are now atheists. I think the problem is having beliefs shoved down your throat from an early age, where a child is likely to believe whatever it is told, and those crucial first few years make an imprint on the child's beliefs for the rest of it's life.

It has had serious consequences. In the 19th century, in the papal states, a christian servant secretly had an ill jewish child, Edgar Mortara, baptised to save him from hell. The child recovered, the pope learned and had him taken from his family and brought up as a christian.

well.. back then yes. I should think it highly inappropriate if the Pope started stealing people's babies..

then explain the human EYE