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Original post by Sarah.B.S.A
Can I ask you a question mate, are you like high atm or something? Because I can't begin to understand that you actually believe anything you're saying right now! xD If you do then people, according to 'cole-slaw', we have now all sadly become... drinkerphobics! :O


I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here:

you've never actually attended a freshers' week, have you?

confirm or deny
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Original post by cole-slaw
Yes, ok a wine-tasting event should probably not be part of freshers week. I challenge you to find a single wine tasting event in any freshers week in the UK. (Although you could argue that a non-drinker could still partake but just spit the wine out like many people do.)

A lot of freshers week events are geared towards socialising in places that facilitate that activity. Drinking is entirely optional. Going on to a nightclub afterwards is entirely optional.

If people want to organise a trip to the cinema, great. But why only aim it at non-drinkers? Its a bit ignorant to presume that just because a person is not 100% teetotal they don't also enjoy going to the cinema. Its like you're picking on drinkers for some reason. Its bullying.


As I said before, I haven't seen anyone imply that non-drinkers wouldn't be welcome. It's pretty obvious we're not going to agree and we've already derailed the thread somewhat so I suggest we leave people to carry on using the thread as it was originally intended.
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Original post by cole-slaw
Show me a link to a freshers week event in the UK that you would be unable to attend because drinking alcohol is compulsory, and I will agree that you are indeed being forced to organise your own events.


I never stated that 'drinking alcohol is compulsory'. I said that MOST students socialise and make friends by going to clubs and house parties where people often drink. So the minority of those that aren't fond of drinking/clubbing for personal preference or religious reasons, to not feel left out and to socialise we create such threads like this so that we can plan before hand the activities we want to do.

Please tell me what is the issue?
Original post by szm95
I never stated that 'drinking alcohol is compulsory'. I said that MOST students socialise and make friends by going to clubs and house parties where people often drink. So the minority of those that aren't fond of drinking/clubbing for personal preference or religious reasons, to not feel left out and to socialise we create such threads like this so that we can plan before hand the activities we want to do.

Please tell me what is the issue?


Actually, most students socialise by doing a whole range of things, from playing sport, to watching a movie, to doing a quiz to playing pool to simply going to the pub and talking about politics. Only a relatively minor amount of time is spent in nightclubs.

I don't understand your problem. Just because other people are drinking on your activity, that doesn't mean you have to join in. Do you have to flee from the cinema if the person next to you has a glass of wine?
Original post by HandmadeTurnip
As I said before, I haven't seen anyone imply that non-drinkers wouldn't be welcome. It's pretty obvious we're not going to agree and we've already derailed the thread somewhat so I suggest we leave people to carry on using the thread as it was originally intended.



Read the following sentence, then answer the question.

I'm looking for anyone who doesn't like partying / drinking, to join our whatsapp group and we can organise our own events.


What type of people is OP specifically looking for to join his/her whatsapp group?
Original post by szm95
It's not even that deep. Don't know why some of you are making an issue out of this. Some like me for religious reasons do not like to drink or go clubbing; thus to socialise and make friends(like most students do through clubbing/drinking etc) people like me have to resort to activities that don't involve drinking.

Hope you understood that 'cole-slaw'. Also if you spot any grammatical errors then feel free to correct me as I'm always trying to improve my written English.


I was thinking the exact same thing. cole-slaw is getting his knickers in a twist for nothing
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Original post by cole-slaw
Actually, most students socialise by doing a whole range of things, from playing sport, to watching a movie, to doing a quiz to playing pool to simply going to the pub and talking about politics. Only a relatively minor amount of time is spent in nightclubs.

I don't understand your problem. Just because other people are drinking on your activity, that doesn't mean you have to join in. Do you have to flee from the cinema if the person next to you has a glass of wine?


Allow this. I'm no longer going to entertain this conversation. Goodbye.
Reply 47
I feel like coleslaw is literally just enjoying the argument. I say we just dont reply to any of his messages from here on. This is a reasonable thread so that people who dont drink dont feel left out. There is no reason to argue about it.
If he carries on spamming the thread then we'll report him. Simple as that.
Original post by johnh545
I feel like coleslaw is literally just enjoying the argument. I say we just dont reply to any of his messages from here on. This is a reasonable thread so that people who dont drink dont feel left out. There is no reason to argue about it.
If he carries on spamming the thread then we'll report him. Simple as that.


I'm trying to help, seeing as I am clearly the only one here who has the slightest clue what actually happens in freshers week: there is simply no need to socially ostracise yourself from the majority of students, its a really bad idea. If you want to go to the cinema, go to the cinema. But don't refuse to invite your flatmates because they're not teetotal, that's ****ing retarded.
Original post by szm95
Allow this. I'm no longer going to entertain this conversation. Goodbye.


So basically everything I said is correct, everything you said was rubbish.

At this point you're supposed to thank me for putting you straight, not storm off in a huff like you were just trolling us the whole time.
Someone set up a society the year before last that put on alcohol-free events. I'm not sure if they're still active though as their Facebook page hasn't been updated in a while and their page on the SU website seems to have disappeared.
Hey I`m now a masters student at the University of Manchester (did my undergrad at Manchester too).

I drink but thought you`d like to know the University has their own range of events for non-drinking freshers, from film nights to laser quest and other random stuff. Also the societies have lots of things happening aswell as course socials.

Not drinking does not exclude you from making friends, so much happens especially in a vibrant city like Manchester :-)
Original post by cole-slaw
Chocolate, sex and alcohol DEFINITELY make you happy. In both the short run and the long run.

Alcohol has health benefits. It helps you socialise and prevents depression and extends your life expectancy. You should read up on it. Its not really addictive either.You're risking your health by not drinking.


Not in the long run....not in my opinion. For me that would be a meaningless frustrating life if i just spent time in partying, sex and alcohol.

I have never heard of alcohol being healthy....very counter-intuitive. Because i'm an open minded person i shall read up on it but i doubt there is scientific evidence to back those claims up.
Original post by Paisley99
Not in the long run....not in my opinion. For me that would be a meaningless frustrating life if i just spent time in partying, sex and alcohol.

I have never heard of alcohol being healthy....very counter-intuitive. Because i'm an open minded person i shall read up on it but i doubt there is scientific evidence to back those claims up.


Its good that you are an open-minded young man. You will do well.

Some things make you happy in the short-run, some things make you happy in the long run. There is more than enough time in the day to do both.

Emerson spoke of "moderation in all things". Needless self-denial is not a virtue.
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Original post by cole-slaw
Its good that you are an open-minded young man. You will do well.

Some things make you happy in the short-run, some things make you happy in the long run. There is more than enough time in the day to do both.

Emerson spoke of "moderation in all things". Needless self-denial is not a virtue.



As for healthy drinking, even TSR has an article on it.
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki/the_surprising_health_benefits_of_daily_drinking


Young woman*. I looked up on it...more harmful effects than "health benefits".
It's all bs.
I'm social and outgoing enough without the alcohol...I don't need to dumb myself down.
You haven't convinced me.
Nice talking to you.
Original post by Paisley99
Young woman*. I looked up on it...more harmful effects than "health benefits".
It's all bs.
I'm social and outgoing enough without the alcohol...I don't need to dumb myself down.
You haven't convinced me.
Nice talking to you.


Oh, sorry. For some reason I thought you were a guy.
I can't even be bothered to read through your guys' arguing, but from what I gather cole-slaw is misunderstanding what this thread is about. The whole point of the thread is to organise events for people who don't want/like to drink. Most fresher's events focus on socialising and meeting new people through drinking. This is not for everyone. We're trying to organise events where the focus is not on drinking. Of course, people who drink could come to these events but if they were drinking at them, it would defeat the point. We're not trying to exclude anybody - everybody is welcome, regardless of whether they're a drinker or not. They should just be aware that these events will not be about drinking.
Original post by Paisley99

It's like saying chocolate and sex makes you happy... the pleasure is only temporary and if you indulge too much it just makes you fed up of life imo....they don't make you happy.


wat
Original post by Becca_242
I can't even be bothered to read through your guys' arguing, but from what I gather cole-slaw is misunderstanding what this thread is about. The whole point of the thread is to organise events for people who don't want/like to drink. Most fresher's events focus on socialising and meeting new people through drinking. This is not for everyone. We're trying to organise events where the focus is not on drinking. Of course, people who drink could come to these events but if they were drinking at them, it would defeat the point. We're not trying to exclude anybody - everybody is welcome, regardless of whether they're a drinker or not. They should just be aware that these events will not be about drinking.


No they don't. How exactly do you meet people "through" drinking anyway?

Having got this basic fact wrong, I'm not surprised you are so confused about what happens during freshers week. Stop spreading inaccurate scare stories.
Original post by cole-slaw
No they don't. How exactly do you meet people "through" drinking anyway?

Having got this basic fact wrong, I'm not surprised you are so confused about what happens during freshers week. Stop spreading inaccurate scare stories.


People hang out, socialising and drinking and talking to new people and getting to know them. You share a common interest and thus begin talking and meet new people.

May I ask what 'scare' stories I am spreading, exactly?

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