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Reply 40
Original post by DylanJ42
I do wonder how the top top unis handled admissions without the A* grade


Because far fewer people used to get A grades until recently. So the A* had to be introduced to differentiate the very top.

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Original post by jneill
Because far fewer people used to get A grades until recently. So the A* had to be introduced to differentiate the very top.

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and 20+ years ago was an A still 80 UMS?

Would you say exams have definitely gotten easier?
Original post by DylanJ42
I do wonder how the top top unis handled admissions without the A* grade


Until we had the massive grade inflation of the past 20 years it wasn't a problem. I am pretty ancient but when I was applying for university (1981) it was possible to get into Med school with CCC (BBB was probably about the highest anyone wanted) and I remember one of my classmates getting into Oxford to read Zoology with CCD. You still needed AAA for Vet Sci though.
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Original post by DylanJ42
and 20+ years ago was an A still 80 UMS?

Would you say exams have definitely gotten easier?


UMS didn't exist 20 years ago. A levels were linear I think - they certainly were 30 years ago. regardless, UMS requirements are meaningless as they just pick a raw to UMS conversion to get the UMS they want.
Reply 44
Original post by DylanJ42
and 20+ years ago was an A still 80 UMS?

Would you say exams have definitely gotten easier?


Back in the day a fixed % of students would get the A grade (top 8% I think?)

That changed in the 80s and the proportion of those getting an A started to rise. Now >25% get A or A*.

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Original post by jneill
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very informative, thank you :smile:

Am i right in saying, from the chart, that 9% of students get A*s these days? didn't think it would be as many as that :eek:

Original post by Compost
Until we had the massive grade inflation of the past 20 years it wasn't a problem. I am pretty ancient but when I was applying for university (1982) it was possible to get into Med school with CCC (BBB was probably about the highest anyone wanted) and I remember one of my classmates getting into Oxford to read Zoology with CCD. You still needed AAA for Vet Sci though.


wow, how things have changed... :bawling:
Original post by DylanJ42
very informative, thank you :smile:

Am i right in saying, from the chart, that 9% of students get A*s these days?

It varies massively between subjects, see statistics here: http://www.jcq.org.uk/examination-results/a-levels/2015/a-as-and-aea-results-summer-2015
Original post by Compost
It varies massively between subjects, see statistics here: http://www.jcq.org.uk/examination-results/a-levels/2015/a-as-and-aea-results-summer-2015


40% get A or better in maths :laugh:, and 56% get A or better in FM :eek:

I will have a better look over this later once I've done some work , thanks :smile:
Original post by DylanJ42
40% get A or better in maths :laugh:, and 56% get A or better in FM :eek:


Those are the stats for people who make it to the end of A level, but a lot of the people who start it are weeded out before that point - either because they just drop it or because their AS grade causes them to give up. I don't know what the stats would look like if you looked at all those starting AS Maths in Year 12.
Original post by Compost
Those are the stats for people who make it to the end of A level, but a lot of the people who start it are weeded out before that point - either because they just drop it or because their AS grade causes them to give up. I don't know what the stats would look like if you looked at all those starting AS Maths in Year 12.


Well even thinking of my A2 maths class, I don't think 40% will get an A or better, and I also don't think my school is rubbish :dontknow:
Reply 50
Original post by Compost
Those are the stats for people who make it to the end of A level, but a lot of the people who start it are weeded out before that point - either because they just drop it or because their AS grade causes them to give up. I don't know what the stats would look like if you looked at all those starting AS Maths in Year 12.


I'm pretty sure the A grade rate for AS-level Maths is also high (maybe not as high as A2 but still).

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Reply 51
@Compost, how different is the one year AS-level syllabus from the first year of the new linear A-levels? In other words, is it becoming impractical to take AS in Y12 and then continue with the linear A-level for Y13?
Original post by jneill
@Compost, how different is the one year AS-level syllabus from the first year of the new linear A-levels? In other words, is it becoming impractical to take AS in Y12 and then continue with the linear A-level for Y13?


All the new specifications have been designed with the intention of the AS and first year of A level being 'co-teachable' and every school I know is teaching all their Y12s taking the new specs together regardless of whether the students are taking AS, A level or haven't decided yet - state schools could certainly not afford to do anything else.

At my school we're not even asking the students what they are dropping until they get their AS results in August.
Reply 53
Original post by Compost
All the new specifications have been designed with the intention of the AS and first year of A level being 'co-teachable' and every school I know is teaching all their Y12s taking the new specs together regardless of whether the students are taking AS, A level or haven't decided yet - state schools could certainly not afford to do anything else.

At my school we're not even asking the students what they are dropping until they get their AS results in August.


Excellent - thanks.

But 2 year ASs are also coming aren't they?
Original post by jneill
Excellent - thanks.

But 2 year ASs are also coming aren't they?


Schools are free to teach subjects as they wish - mine used to do quite a few AS over 2 years (Years 10 and 11). However, when these reforms shake down I I think AS might die completely. Entering students for AS as well as A level is going to cost our school £20,000 we haven't really got and for little long term gain.
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