History and Politics at UEA, Sussex or Exeter, Penryn campus?
Hi!
I'm sorry if I'm asking a variation of a question already asked by others but I wanted to get some advice specific to my circumstances, since I'm very torn. I've just received offers from UEA (unconditional), Sussex (AAB, but ABB if I make it my firm choice), Exeter - Penryn campus (AAB), York (AAA) and Loughborough (ABB) but can't decide which to go for. My UCAS grades are AAA, although I think it's more likely I'll get something in the region of AAB-BBB (history was originally a predicted B until I got it pushed up).
I've largely ruled out York, since Exeter is statistically better and has lower entry requirements, and Loughborough as a firm choice, since I only ever applied with the intention of having it as my insurance choice. However, that leaves me with UEA, Sussex and Exeter to choose from for my firm choice. My thoughts at the moment are:
* UEA's the worst of the three statistically (except in The Guardian table, where it comes above Sussex) and isn't Russell Group, but I joint-liked it most along with Exeter and the offer is unconditional. The course also looks the most interesting and Norwich seems like a very nice place.
* Sussex is the middle-ground, with lower entry requirements than Exeter if I make it my firm choice, in the middle of Exeter and UEA for performance (though only as of this year) and in the middle for how interesting the course looks. It's also Russell Group and Brighton's really nice.
* Exeter, Penryn campus is statistically the best by far, it's Russell Group and I liked it when I visited the most, along with UEA. However, it's the hardest to get into, the course looks least interesting and it's pretty remote.
Does anyone have any advice, particularly regarding league table performance (is any league table more reliable than the others, are they all unreliable, etc?) and the importance of a university being in the Russell Group?
Thank you!
I'm sorry if I'm asking a variation of a question already asked by others but I wanted to get some advice specific to my circumstances, since I'm very torn. I've just received offers from UEA (unconditional), Sussex (AAB, but ABB if I make it my firm choice), Exeter - Penryn campus (AAB), York (AAA) and Loughborough (ABB) but can't decide which to go for. My UCAS grades are AAA, although I think it's more likely I'll get something in the region of AAB-BBB (history was originally a predicted B until I got it pushed up).
I've largely ruled out York, since Exeter is statistically better and has lower entry requirements, and Loughborough as a firm choice, since I only ever applied with the intention of having it as my insurance choice. However, that leaves me with UEA, Sussex and Exeter to choose from for my firm choice. My thoughts at the moment are:
* UEA's the worst of the three statistically (except in The Guardian table, where it comes above Sussex) and isn't Russell Group, but I joint-liked it most along with Exeter and the offer is unconditional. The course also looks the most interesting and Norwich seems like a very nice place.
* Sussex is the middle-ground, with lower entry requirements than Exeter if I make it my firm choice, in the middle of Exeter and UEA for performance (though only as of this year) and in the middle for how interesting the course looks. It's also Russell Group and Brighton's really nice.
* Exeter, Penryn campus is statistically the best by far, it's Russell Group and I liked it when I visited the most, along with UEA. However, it's the hardest to get into, the course looks least interesting and it's pretty remote.
Does anyone have any advice, particularly regarding league table performance (is any league table more reliable than the others, are they all unreliable, etc?) and the importance of a university being in the Russell Group?
Thank you!
Original post by CrazyRoyal
Does anyone have any advice, particularly regarding league table performance?
Here's my advice: do not pay attention to league tables. They are not accurate and they do not represent employers' or the general public's opinion on universities. The truth is most employers don't care where you studied. UEA, York, Exeter, Sussex and Loughborough are all in the same general 'not bad, not Oxbridge' category of universities, one is not better than the other.
Entry requirements are not an indicator of quality or prestige. They simply reflect course popularity. Universities raise their entry requirements to give the impression that they're really selective, when in reality they aren't. Forget about bogus statistics and make your decision based on things that actually matter (course and location)!
As the poster above said, ignore league tables. They change so much every year and some uni's rankings are utter bs. Based on rep, Exeter and York win by a mile. But don't just go to a uni because of its reputation, have a look around on their applicant day and go for the one which suits u best. After all you're gonna be living there for at least 3 years.
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Original post by CrazyRoyal
Hi!
I'm sorry if I'm asking a variation of a question already asked by others but I wanted to get some advice specific to my circumstances, since I'm very torn. I've just received offers from UEA (unconditional), Sussex (AAB, but ABB if I make it my firm choice), Exeter - Penryn campus (AAB), York (AAA) and Loughborough (ABB) but can't decide which to go for. My UCAS grades are AAA, although I think it's more likely I'll get something in the region of AAB-BBB (history was originally a predicted B until I got it pushed up).
I've largely ruled out York, since Exeter is statistically better and has lower entry requirements, and Loughborough as a firm choice, since I only ever applied with the intention of having it as my insurance choice. However, that leaves me with UEA, Sussex and Exeter to choose from for my firm choice. My thoughts at the moment are:
* UEA's the worst of the three statistically (except in The Guardian table, where it comes above Sussex) and isn't Russell Group, but I joint-liked it most along with Exeter and the offer is unconditional. The course also looks the most interesting and Norwich seems like a very nice place.
* Sussex is the middle-ground, with lower entry requirements than Exeter if I make it my firm choice, in the middle of Exeter and UEA for performance (though only as of this year) and in the middle for how interesting the course looks. It's also Russell Group and Brighton's really nice.
* Exeter, Penryn campus is statistically the best by far, it's Russell Group and I liked it when I visited the most, along with UEA. However, it's the hardest to get into, the course looks least interesting and it's pretty remote.
Does anyone have any advice, particularly regarding league table performance (is any league table more reliable than the others, are they all unreliable, etc?) and the importance of a university being in the Russell Group?
Thank you!
I'm sorry if I'm asking a variation of a question already asked by others but I wanted to get some advice specific to my circumstances, since I'm very torn. I've just received offers from UEA (unconditional), Sussex (AAB, but ABB if I make it my firm choice), Exeter - Penryn campus (AAB), York (AAA) and Loughborough (ABB) but can't decide which to go for. My UCAS grades are AAA, although I think it's more likely I'll get something in the region of AAB-BBB (history was originally a predicted B until I got it pushed up).
I've largely ruled out York, since Exeter is statistically better and has lower entry requirements, and Loughborough as a firm choice, since I only ever applied with the intention of having it as my insurance choice. However, that leaves me with UEA, Sussex and Exeter to choose from for my firm choice. My thoughts at the moment are:
* UEA's the worst of the three statistically (except in The Guardian table, where it comes above Sussex) and isn't Russell Group, but I joint-liked it most along with Exeter and the offer is unconditional. The course also looks the most interesting and Norwich seems like a very nice place.
* Sussex is the middle-ground, with lower entry requirements than Exeter if I make it my firm choice, in the middle of Exeter and UEA for performance (though only as of this year) and in the middle for how interesting the course looks. It's also Russell Group and Brighton's really nice.
* Exeter, Penryn campus is statistically the best by far, it's Russell Group and I liked it when I visited the most, along with UEA. However, it's the hardest to get into, the course looks least interesting and it's pretty remote.
Does anyone have any advice, particularly regarding league table performance (is any league table more reliable than the others, are they all unreliable, etc?) and the importance of a university being in the Russell Group?
Thank you!
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Original post by CrazyRoyal
Hi!
I'm sorry if I'm asking a variation of a question already asked by others but I wanted to get some advice specific to my circumstances, since I'm very torn. I've just received offers from UEA (unconditional), Sussex (AAB, but ABB if I make it my firm choice), Exeter - Penryn campus (AAB), York (AAA) and Loughborough (ABB) but can't decide which to go for. My UCAS grades are AAA, although I think it's more likely I'll get something in the region of AAB-BBB (history was originally a predicted B until I got it pushed up).
I've largely ruled out York, since Exeter is statistically better and has lower entry requirements, and Loughborough as a firm choice, since I only ever applied with the intention of having it as my insurance choice. However, that leaves me with UEA, Sussex and Exeter to choose from for my firm choice. My thoughts at the moment are:
* UEA's the worst of the three statistically (except in The Guardian table, where it comes above Sussex) and isn't Russell Group, but I joint-liked it most along with Exeter and the offer is unconditional. The course also looks the most interesting and Norwich seems like a very nice place.
* Sussex is the middle-ground, with lower entry requirements than Exeter if I make it my firm choice, in the middle of Exeter and UEA for performance (though only as of this year) and in the middle for how interesting the course looks. It's also Russell Group and Brighton's really nice.
* Exeter, Penryn campus is statistically the best by far, it's Russell Group and I liked it when I visited the most, along with UEA. However, it's the hardest to get into, the course looks least interesting and it's pretty remote.
Does anyone have any advice, particularly regarding league table performance (is any league table more reliable than the others, are they all unreliable, etc?) and the importance of a university being in the Russell Group?
Thank you!
I'm sorry if I'm asking a variation of a question already asked by others but I wanted to get some advice specific to my circumstances, since I'm very torn. I've just received offers from UEA (unconditional), Sussex (AAB, but ABB if I make it my firm choice), Exeter - Penryn campus (AAB), York (AAA) and Loughborough (ABB) but can't decide which to go for. My UCAS grades are AAA, although I think it's more likely I'll get something in the region of AAB-BBB (history was originally a predicted B until I got it pushed up).
I've largely ruled out York, since Exeter is statistically better and has lower entry requirements, and Loughborough as a firm choice, since I only ever applied with the intention of having it as my insurance choice. However, that leaves me with UEA, Sussex and Exeter to choose from for my firm choice. My thoughts at the moment are:
* UEA's the worst of the three statistically (except in The Guardian table, where it comes above Sussex) and isn't Russell Group, but I joint-liked it most along with Exeter and the offer is unconditional. The course also looks the most interesting and Norwich seems like a very nice place.
* Sussex is the middle-ground, with lower entry requirements than Exeter if I make it my firm choice, in the middle of Exeter and UEA for performance (though only as of this year) and in the middle for how interesting the course looks. It's also Russell Group and Brighton's really nice.
* Exeter, Penryn campus is statistically the best by far, it's Russell Group and I liked it when I visited the most, along with UEA. However, it's the hardest to get into, the course looks least interesting and it's pretty remote.
Does anyone have any advice, particularly regarding league table performance (is any league table more reliable than the others, are they all unreliable, etc?) and the importance of a university being in the Russell Group?
Thank you!
As others have said, the difference between those universities isn't going to matter to an employer. You need to choose the university you will be happiest at- so look at course content, location, facilities when making a choice, thats what really matters. Whichever university you go to you can build up the skills employers want e.g. through undertaking work experience.
We'd like to point you to Unistats. It's a great way to tap into the opinion of current students. We've just taken a look at History on Unistats and compared the three courses at three universities you're considering.
A few have claimed other universities have the better reputation but here at UEA we're recognised as a leading department within the UK - ranking top for overall satisfaction in History in the National Student Survey 2016. We're also pleased to be a Top 15 university which prides itself on student satisfaction!
It's worth also considering cost of living when determining where you move to, Norwich is certainly competitive for the cost of campus and private accommodation compared to larger cities. We also have so much city within our city, it's a beautiful place to live and study!
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A few have claimed other universities have the better reputation but here at UEA we're recognised as a leading department within the UK - ranking top for overall satisfaction in History in the National Student Survey 2016. We're also pleased to be a Top 15 university which prides itself on student satisfaction!
It's worth also considering cost of living when determining where you move to, Norwich is certainly competitive for the cost of campus and private accommodation compared to larger cities. We also have so much city within our city, it's a beautiful place to live and study!
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Hit us up if you have any further questions about UEA
How can you tell if the course will be more or less interesting? All the unis say they offer broad range of choice and specialisms, and the first years all seem to be very similar. The only difference I can see is how many non-history credits can be taken?
Original post by histerical
How can you tell if the course will be more or less interesting? All the unis say they offer broad range of choice and specialisms, and the first years all seem to be very similar. The only difference I can see is how many non-history credits can be taken?
By looking in detail at the modules offered. The Exeter/Penryn course is particularly limited in scope and choice.
Original post by ageshallnot
By looking in detail at the modules offered. The Exeter/Penryn course is particularly limited in scope and choice.
Yes, most universities list all of the modules they offer at that particular time on the website, for example:
https://www2.uea.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/degree/detail/ba-history
Original post by University of East Anglia
Yes, most universities list all of the modules they offer at that particular time on the website, for example:
https://www2.uea.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/degree/detail/ba-history
https://www2.uea.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/degree/detail/ba-history
It's a shame that all universities don't do this. To help @CrazyRoyal out a bit, of their five choices only Loughborough appear to have neglected to make this information available on the current iteration of their website. From memory, however, the emphasis is very much on the modern period, particularly politics and international relations. This isn't surprising given that the History course there is fairly new and several of the modules are shared with Politics and IR degrees.
Of the others UEA, York and Sussex all have a far greater choice and range than the frankly poor offering at Penryn.
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Thanks a lot everyone, this has been really helpful! I think I'm near to making a decision now, once I've talked to a teacher(s) about it. 
What about Birmingham, Southampton and Sheffield - much to choose between their courses? All seem to be very strong on the research front. Presumably teaching and assessment styles also differ?
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