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Senior EU offical daughter raped and murdered by migrant Germany

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Original post by SonoLuma
It seems the OP has started this thread to stir up arguments with people.


Or maybe I started this thread to inform people that the migrant rape wave continues in our countries.

Original post by SonoLuma

Since they signed up to TSR, ive seen the OP start more than one argument along these lines.


Arguments tend to happen when you are in a subforum which starts with the title 'Debates'. Maybe go and have a look in some other sections instead if this bothers you
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Original post by SonoLuma
Reply to threads with no connection to the thread topic with borderline racist and xenophobic messages. and generally just try to stir up sh*t.


I'm sure the mods will take care of that if they see such things happening.

Original post by SonoLuma

Is there any way to inform the mods/admins about this user?


Click on their username and there is an option to send private messages. There is also a report option on every post that users make.


Original post by SonoLuma

They dont seem to be on this site for student reasons, more like stirring stuff up (like if you go to yahoo answers for any length of time)


There is no requirement on TSR which states that somebody has to be here for 'student reasons'.
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Original post by blah3210
Is there any evidence to support that refugees and migrants are more likely to commit severe crimes than the general populace?


Probably not. But if that one individual had not been allowed into Germany the girl would still be alive today. That is a fact.
Original post by HandiCapanda
Enter the expected; 'non-whites are European as well because we are all the children of migrants/africa all human' blah blah blah. You know the song, it ends with some black person on TSR telling you that British people don't exist or that their ancestors built the UK when they arrived a few decades ago. It'd be funny if it weren't so serious.


The only racists are those who say things like 'Why do you only care about Europeans? Is it because they are white?'

This is undeniably racist. There are plenty of non-whites who were born in European countries, grew up in European countries and speak European languages. They aren't any less European than me, a white European, as far as I am concerned. The only people who are making the migrant crisis about race are the SJW racists who inject racial problems into everything, even though race has nothing to do with the question.
Original post by Aladdinsaaane
The only racists are those who say things like 'Why do you only care about Europeans? Is it because they are white?'

This is undeniably racist. There are plenty of non-whites who were born in European countries, grew up in European countries and speak European languages. They aren't any less European than me, a white European, as far as I am concerned. The only people who are making the migrant crisis about race are the SJW racists who inject racial problems into everything, even though race has nothing to do with the question.


The very concept of race is regional adaptions of physical characteristics, black people do not come from Europe, seems very basic. You want to deny the concept of evolution ?

Direct ancestry matters, as does regional lineage.

It's not meant as an insult to black people to say that they are African and not European, the words 'African' and 'European' are exclusive and by their very nature most include certain groups to the exclusion of others in order to have any descriptive power. If anyone and everyone can be European then the words lose their descriptive power and become meaningless, meaning nobody is European because the concept is superfluous.
Original post by HandiCapanda
The very concept of race is regional adaptions of physical characteristics, black people do not come from Europe, seems very basic. You want to deny the concept of evolution ?


No, this is precisely what I was talking about. When a European person says that they care more about their own country / Europe then the rest of the world, certain people start screaming about 'Why???? Because Europeans have white skin??? ou are racist445664!!!!!'. It's normal for people to be more concerned about the UK and the EU, as that is where we live and which affects us most directly. Everyone is more affected by things that happen close to them. You would be more emotionally involved if you found out that the city next to yours was bombed instead of hearing about a city in Syria being bombed. It's just how human nature works. It has nothing to do Syrians being a few shades darker.

People who care about about 'Europe' and 'Europeans' or their own countries mostly care citizens of these areas, regardless of what color their skin is. Of course there is the neo-nazi exception, parties like the BNP talk about race when they say 'European', but that's less than 1% of the population, for everyone else, European is a cultural term. The Europe vs Islam war going on right now is a cultural war, not a racial one.


Original post by HandiCapanda

It's not meant as an insult to black people to say that they are African and not European, the words 'African' and 'European' are exclusive


A black British person is a person of African descent, that doesn't change the fact that legally and culturally they are British, hence European.
Sexual repression/objectification of pretty young white women from ethnic minorities. :colonhash: When will they learn they can look but not touch??
Original post by markova21
Probably not. But if that one individual had not been allowed into Germany the girl would still be alive today. That is a fact.


That is indeed a fact. And from personal observance which could lend credence to objective "fact"; isn't it funny everytime a heineous rape has been commited especially in large urban areas it's almost 75% certain to be a male of either direct foreign desacent or second generation??
Original post by markova21
Probably not. But if that one individual had not been allowed into Germany the girl would still be alive today. That is a fact.


This reads like one of those poisonous M&Ms analogy that's been fairly popular amongst nationalists/xenophobes. Of course, this is a nonsensical argument that no one actually takes seriously in our everyday lives. It has no specificity and can be applied to any group (including the group making the generalizations to begin with), it uses non-empirical base rates, the correct base rates is never factored into the analysis, and it uses an irrational risk analysis that assumes that zero risk is possible.

Besides, how do you know it's a fact? Considering that all statistics show migrants, and refugees specifically commit less crime per capita than the general populace, how do you know she wouldn't have been raped by a German national?
Original post by P357
Well tbf, better her- an active enabler of merkels mass-immigration policies- than some random child/woman on the street who never asked for any of it(as is most often the case)....


Yep, she was responsible for this. /s

****.
Original post by l'etranger
They don't want to be inclusive, they have zero intention of being inclusive, Western secular progressive thought is rooted in Christianity, they set aside the spiritual aspect but retained the value system. If they were inclusive you would actually have a right wing option as well as a socialist option on the ballot paper, if they were inclusive universities would also have Austrian school economists rather than them being dominated by the followers of Keynes.


Actually influx Muslim communities have a problem with their daughters adopting western values when it comes to relationships and sex etc.
Original post by Aladdinsaaane
No, this is precisely what I was talking about. When a European person says that they care more about their own country / Europe then the rest of the world, certain people start screaming about 'Why???? Because Europeans have white skin??? ou are racist445664!!!!!'. It's normal for people to be more concerned about the UK and the EU, as that is where we live and which affects us most directly. Everyone is more affected by things that happen close to them. You would be more emotionally involved if you found out that the city next to yours was bombed instead of hearing about a city in Syria being bombed. It's just how human nature works. It has nothing to do Syrians being a few shades darker.

People who care about about 'Europe' and 'Europeans' or their own countries mostly care citizens of these areas, regardless of what color their skin is. Of course there is the neo-nazi exception, parties like the BNP talk about race when they say 'European', but that's less than 1% of the population, for everyone else, European is a cultural term. The Europe vs Islam war going on right now is a cultural war, not a racial one.




A black British person is a person of African descent, that doesn't change the fact that legally and culturally they are British, hence European.


You have tried to disagree without being specific.

Do you deny that the idea of race is based on evolutionary adaptions to specific regions?

If you don't, then there is a racial component to being from any part of any region including the UK.
Original post by Aladdinsaaane
Considering the cover ups by our EU governments (as it has been exposed with the Muslim rape wave in the UK which they kept secret in fear of being racist)


There has been no massive coverups across Europe by our EU governments - the Rotherham scandal in particular was largely ignored by the police because the victims were from a working class background.


and I think it is Sweden which has stopped keeping a track of rapes by ethnicity as a result of migrants committing rapes,


Source?

no, we do not have any *statistical* evidence to suppport that, as it has been intentionally erased.


No statistical evidence at all? Just relying on conspiracy theories then?



We do however have common sense that we can rely on which is why people are increasingly voting for anti-Islamisation


Evidence for the "Islamisation" of Europe?

unfortunately in the form of right wing nationalist parties. The problem should be dealt with by normal, moderate people, but that isn't happening, in fact their denial is getting worse and worse. And the far right keeps getting bigger and bigger. Le pen and Hofer might not happen now, but they will in the next election cycle if this complacency continues and it is obvious it will.


What does this have to do with the largely law-abiding migrants and refugees Syrian refugees in particular who tend to be less conservative than Muslims brought up in Europe?

I know people are irrational and stupid. I'm not surprised they're voting for right-wing populists parties. How do you think Hitler managed to rise to power?
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
Actually influx Muslim communities have a problem with their daughters adopting western values when it comes to relationships and sex etc.


.... and with apostacy, erasure of personal individuality by wearing face veils, ethnic segregation not only geographically, but by sending their kids to so called Islamic schools where 'moderate' Muslims who refuse to condemn chopping people's hands off teach the fastest growing religious demographic. All promoted by those who are supposed to be vehemently against all of this - the liberals, with the main pillar of liberalism being the protection of individuals against herd mentality and the tyranny of the majority - which is the pillar of Islamic cultures.
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
Actually influx Muslim communities have a problem with their daughters adopting western values when it comes to relationships and sex etc.


Their daddies do have a go don't they.
Original post by l'etranger
Their daddies do have a go don't they.


What?
Original post by Aladdinsaaane
The only racists are those who say things like 'Why do you only care about Europeans? Is it because they are white?'

This is undeniably racist. There are plenty of non-whites who were born in European countries, grew up in European countries and speak European languages. They aren't any less European than me, a white European, as far as I am concerned. The only people who are making the migrant crisis about race are the SJW racists who inject racial problems into everything, even though race has nothing to do with the question.


You're projecting. How naive. Of course race/ethnicity has everything to do with it. The overwhelming majority of those who oppose immigration, influx of migrants or even desperate refugees is because they don't like the fact that their cities are slowly being filled with alien, non-white faces.

There's no such thing as "European culture"; each EU nation-state has its distinct practises and cultures; many of them certainly overlap with the religious conservatism that may be prevalent in the Middle-East. But why do you care about people who belong to the same "culture" as you? What's so special about culture?
Original post by blah3210
There has been no massive coverups across Europe by our EU governments - the Rotherham scandal in particular was largely ignored by the police because the victims were from a working class background.




Source?

Um, the UK government themselves? They have publicly admitted this. Obviously you have been living under a rock. Go and educate yourself.



Original post by blah3210

Evidence for the "Islamisation" of Europe?


Some people use their brains, eyes and ears.

I am no longer concerned about the fact denial of people such as you, because the more you deny it, the bigger the far right gets and the sonner we can get rid of this problem. Please keep going.
Original post by Aladdinsaaane
.... and with apostacy, erasure of personal individuality by wearing face veils, ethnic segregation not only geographically, but by sending their kids to so called Islamic schools where 'moderate' Muslims who refuse to condemn chopping people's hands off teach the fastest growing religious demographic. All promoted by those who are supposed to be vehemently against all of this - the liberals, with the main pillar of liberalism being the protection of individuals against herd mentality and the tyranny of the majority - which is the pillar of Islamic cultures.


I thought you would be pleased that these girls are freeing themselves. But nope. Guess you want to send them back to the countries where when they go to the police for help they get punished by the police rather than help.
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Original post by BasicMistake
Yep, she was responsible for this. /s

****.



Wasn't she? You wouldnt think she was at least part of the problem?
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
What?


The end game for the progressive elite is to turn Islam into an Arabic copy of Christianity.


In my Father’s house are many rooms... John 14:2

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